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I will be running this marathon with what my doctor said is most likely a torn meniscus. The MRI is scheduled for tomorrow to confirm. However, the doctor did tell me that I can try it, just to stop if the pain gets to much.
If I actually make it in 3:15, I am going to consider myself indestructible!
Just a note to let anyone interested know that I am ready to attempt to BQ in Oakland this Sunday. Here’s the link to the event website. This is the first marathon in 25 years in Oakland.
I followed Hal Higdon’s Intermediate II training plan, and for the most part completed it. I missed two important weeks because I foolishly tried to switch to Nike Frees around week 12, which caused me to change my gait, which led to a bout of Piriformis Syndrome (inflamed muscle pinching sciatic nerve), and then a calf strain. I was able to make a quick recovery through rest and massage, and jump back in without too much loss of fitness. Two weeks ago, I was able to do the last 10/20 weekend (10 miles Saturday at MP (marathon pace), followed by a 20 mile long run at MP + 30 seconds) so I’m feeling confident. I am sticking with my Asics Gel Speedstar 3’s for now!
Based on some recent times (1:39 half, 44:27 10K, 21:00 5K), the McMillan calculator predicts about 3:28 (7:58 pace) for the marathon. Since the first half of the Oakland course is hilly, and I tend to underperform race predictors when moving up in distance, I will be conservative and aim for around 8:10 pace. If I feel good, I will try to pick it up towards the end. I found this marathon pace calculator online which gives pace and heart rate targets for each mile, and it seems very sensible, so I’m planning to run with Garmin and HRM so I can monitor both. Heart rate seems like it would be a better guide on the uphill miles.
Prince of Fatness
If you tell me what time you need to qualify I'll add you to the hopefuls list.
MTA: Never mind. You're on the list already, I'm just behind on things. Good luck.
There is a long dark road ahead of me.
still searching for that 3:15. Was on pace through the first half (again) but fell off the pace sharply after mile 15.
Back to the lab to figure out what to do differently. Will try again in the Philadelphia Marathon in November
dang, this marathon thing is hard
Run like a kid again!
still searching for that 3:15. Was on pace through the first half (again) but fell off the pace sharply after mile 15. Back to the lab to figure out what to do differently. Will try again in the Philadelphia Marathon in November dang, this marathon thing is hard
That sucks but you still rock. Glad to see that you are already thinking about the next marathon. That is a good sign. You will get! Impressive that you ran the whole thing with an injury. Heal up and get ready for Philly!
No racers this weekend. Next up ....
Good luck.
------------------------------------- 5K - 18:25 - 3/19/11 10K - 39:38 - 12/13/09 1/2 - 1:29:38 - 5/30/10 Full - 3:45:40 - 5/27/07
I did. Disney was on a whim where this one was planned a while back. I guess I should get off the racing listing.
Not sure how I'm planning on running this one. I have a goal HM on May 2 where I'm shooting for something special.
Since I have my ticket punhced for 2011, I may just do this as a training run.
I did. Disney was on a whim where this one was planned a while back. I guess I should get off the racing listing. Not sure how I'm planning on running this one. I have a goal HM on May 2 where I'm shooting for something special. Since I have my ticket punhced for 2011, I may just do this as a training run.
Oh come on - your HM PR shows you could go sub-3:10. Sandbagger.
Saving that blast for this fall at Indy. Oh crap.
So much for McMillan, I started out at this pace and hit it pretty well. But by mile 13 I was feeling fatigued, and my pace dropped steadily and rapidly. By mile 20, I had to resort to taking walking breaks. I was able to suck it up for a final run to the finish and "technically" break 4:00 with a 4:00:23. A 20 minute positive split on a course with all the hills in the first half. That says it all really.
I hope I get another chance to see if I can run this distance. Hats off to anyone who BQ's. It's not easy.
Was that too harsh?
In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka The Logic of Long Distance
In order for McMillan to work, you have to train consistently. If your goal is 3:40, you've got it in the bag. All you need to do is quite messing around with interval workouts and 20 mile runs and focus on hitting 50 mpw, week in and week out. Was that too harsh?
Nope.
I've learned the hard way that 40 - 50 mpw continous is a must to run a marathon. You can't build a house (successful marathon) without a solid foundation (base).
No, I'm willing to entertain any suggestions. Obviously, I'm still learning.
I would like to get to 50 mpw consistently. That should be more attainable after completing this marathon training program. I would like to have 1-2 days of rest per week, so that would imply longer runs for each workout.
As for the intervals, I've found them helpful for running faster 5ks. Sub 20 is another of my goals. And to be honest, I do them with a group and value the social aspect.
But I get what you're saying. Mileage first.
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