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shyrunner07
posted: 6/13/2007 at 5:01 AM
(man i sound like my grandparents! I'll never understand these youngin's...)

Teenager accused of assaulting a toddlerhttp://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6647870&nav=0Rcd Sad and Angry

Why would a 13 year old do such a thing? I know adults commit these crimes, but i just can't wrap my head around the idea of someone who is still a kid himself, harming a defenseless and innocent toddler...a baby! You'd think that beating up a lil' tyke just would not be an option, you know? Gah, why doesn't he just go and kick a puppy too while he's at it? What a big tough boy he must feel like... Roll eyes

Hearing this story just made me think of my lil' punkin, who is just a few years removed from toddlerhood...to think that are big kids out there who see nothing wrong with beating up on a wandering and lost baby? Cry Not that it would make things better, but i am curious to hear his defense...abusive homelife?

And how does a 15month old just wander off? Who was watching the baby? I don't think i am overprotective by any means when it comes to my dd, but I know that when she was that age, I did not leave her outside on her own for a minute- if she was outside, i was out there too...and even when she was in the house, i still kept her within eyesight. I've eased up a little bit as she has become a "big girl", but even so...she never plays outside alone (i may have to run inside to get something, but i make it a quick dash and keep talking to her loudly the whole time)....

not a good week for teenaged boys in my area (last week, a boy of the same age was arrested for attempting to sexually assault an 18yr old girl, and a couple of other girls later in the day....apparently he has developed a pattern of this behaviour over the last few years... Dead Angry )

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Runs With Snowplows
posted: 6/13/2007 at 10:55 AM
If Dane ever did anything half that awful to a much smaller kid he'd have me to fear more than the authorities. Bullying would not go over well. What was up with that kid's head...?

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posted: 6/13/2007 at 3:18 PM
sadly recently found out my friends 4 yr old and 5 yr old boys were physically assaulted by their daycare providers 18 yr old son. the SOB was torturing the kids for weeks. the police and DA cannot do enough things to hurt this scumbag. it things like that makes you understand the need for the mafia.
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Runs With Snowplows
posted: 6/13/2007 at 5:53 PM
Oh, Joe, that is terrible--how did their daycare provider not know what was going on?!

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posted: 6/13/2007 at 6:09 PM
I hate hearing about things like this. It's very sad and frustrating.

I prefer to live a sheltered life when it comes to the news.
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posted: 6/13/2007 at 6:21 PM
modified: 6/13/2007 at 6:22 PM
Quote from joe_h on 6/13/2007 at 3:18 PM:
sadly recently found out my friends 4 yr old and 5 yr old boys were physically assaulted by their daycare providers 18 yr old son. the SOB was torturing the kids for weeks

It's stories like this that totally justify the paranoia I have developed over who looks out for my kids. I'd be particularly leery of a situation like the one above where there is a male around -- the sad truth is that the danger to kids in child care increases exponentially around teen and adult males.

As for the first story, I can barely imagine some teenage punk assaulting my little 2-yr old son. Just thinking about it makes me want to cry/shout ( Cry / Angry ) Few people are wired/predisposed to this kind of behavior; no doubt the 13-year old must have experienced a violent/terrible childhood, and I hope he gets the help he needs, but our system is broken, and it's likely too late for that. I hope CPS is investigating his parents.

And what the hell are these people doing letting their 15 month old wander off? Angry Be vigilant!
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shyrunner07
posted: 6/14/2007 at 12:32 AM
Quote from shyrunner07 on 6/13/2007 at 5:01 AM:
Not that it would make things better, but i am curious to hear his defense...abusive homelife?



oh good god.... Roll eyes

The teen allegedly took the toddler into a clump of woods a few blocks from his house and began to beat him, because, investigators say, the teen wanted to see what it was like to beat someone


http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6654389

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posted: 6/14/2007 at 12:59 AM
modified: 6/14/2007 at 1:00 AM
the sad truth is that the danger to kids in child care increases exponentially around teen and adult males.


It's a sad, sad story. But be careful about focusing attention on teens and adult males. In a 2003 study by the US DHHS, they found that most cases of child abuse (80%) were perpetrated by parents. And woman were more likely to be the perpetrator of child abuse than men (women = 58%, men = 42%). http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm03/summary.htm#backfigureseven
The other thing to remember is that in this story, there are definitely instances of child abuse--the toddler, and the 13-year-old.

We all need to be vigilant about child abuse. But I also worry that we continue to promote this vision of all men as potential pedophiles and child abusers. I don't know if you guys ever saw that program on public television where they set up a hidden camera and had a child sitting alone in the cold on a busy street. Only about half of the people stopped to see if the little girl was okay (I think she was around 6). More women stopped than men by far, and when asked, most men responded that they were worried that people would think they were a pedophile.

Sorry to devolve into psuedo politics...but it's something I have some feelings about.

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Runs With Snowplows
posted: 6/14/2007 at 1:06 AM
Quote from PWL on 6/14/2007 at 12:59 AM:
We all need to be vigilant about child abuse. But I also worry that we continue to promote this vision of all men as potential pedophiles and child abusers. I don't know if you guys ever saw that program on public television where they set up a hidden camera and had a child sitting alone in the cold on a busy street. Only about half of the people stopped to see if the little girl was okay (I think she was around 6). More women stopped than men by far, and when asked, most men responded that they were worried that people would think they were a pedophile.

Sorry to devolve into psuedo politics...but it's something I have some feelings about.


That really is a sad sign of the times. My hubby is FAR more of a natural with kids than I am in many ways, and he was an only child and didn't even have all that much interaction with younger kids growing up. He's just really in-touch with his inner child more than a lot of adults. At a party If he had a choice between hanging out with a bunch of guys talking about sports or jumping on a trampoline with a bunch of kids he'd pick the kids. He actually did this several years ago (Andrea, remember Kellie's Easter egg hunt party?) and then was in pain for days, LOL! Kids gravitate towards him and hang off his arms like a jungle gym.

There are creeps everywhere, but for some reason the male creeps with kids seem to get the most media attention. Maybe males are more likely to be pedophiles, but that's only one form of child abuse.

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posted: 6/14/2007 at 11:17 AM
modified: 6/14/2007 at 11:17 AM
Quote from shyrunner07 on 6/14/2007 at 12:32 AM:
but i am curious to hear his defense...abusive homelife?

Just so we're clear, I think the actions of the 13-year old are indefensible, and someone that age certainly knows the difference between right and wrong (at least when it comes to beating a toddler). However, monsters rarely pop up out of a vacuum, and it appears to be the case with this kid.
The suspect's father, who we are not identifying to protect his son's identity, was convicted in December of 2006 of third-degree child abuse.

The suspect said his father beat him with an extension cord, leaving welts and other marks on his arm, back, leg and face.

This is just a terrible story from all sides, and reminds me that we seem to live in a broken world.
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posted: 6/14/2007 at 11:19 AM
Quote from jEfFgObLuE on 6/14/2007 at 11:17 AM:
Just so we're clear, I think the actions of the 13-year old are indefensible, and someone that age certainly knows the difference between right and wrong (at least when it comes to beating a toddler). However, monsters rarely pop up out of a vacuum, and it appears to be the case with this kid.

This is just a terrible story from all sides, and reminds me that we seem to live in a broken world.


Apple...tree. How sad for all involved.

Sad

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Tolstoy
posted: 9/18/2008 at 12:12 AM
Well, at least no puppies were harmed in all this!


Now this is the kind of story that makes me wonder wtf is wrong with people.
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posted: 9/18/2008 at 12:54 AM

Now this is the kind of story that makes me wonder wtf is wrong with people.</quote>

I agree.

Being closer to this issue than I'd like (but my adoptive children have a better past than most who have been in the system) it makes my heart bleed to hear this kind of thing.

There are so many issues here. I am glad that the victims injuries are not life threatening, but I hope to he isn't emotionally scared. Maybe it's not too late for the 13 year old, but I hate to say I doubt it. His mind is pretty messed up that he wanted to find out what it was like - I guess this time he got to be the one in control - sad.
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Asahel
posted: 9/18/2008 at 12:56 AM
Quote from PWL on 6/14/2007 at 12:59 AM:
. And woman were more likely to be the perpetrator of child abuse than men (women = 58%, men = 42%). t.



There has been 4 cases in my 50 mile area of WOMEN in the last 2 two weeks alone abusing middle/pre-teen boys that were in their charge. All were either school teachers or teachers-aids


And for once- they didn't get out of jail free cuz they were good looking like the high profile cases in the past year or two- they each got an average of 6-8 yrs in prison
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posted: 9/18/2008 at 1:03 AM
modified: 9/18/2008 at 1:03 AM
I think everyday people commit these crimes and it's not always "monster".
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