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Calf Knots always in the inside calf muscles (Read 2304 times)


Bugs

    I get repeated knots in the inside of calves, never in the middle, or the outside. Loosing my patience with the whole deal. Could it be not enough arch support? I used to alternate wearing stability shoes and a more natural shoe. (I really hate the stiff stability shoe, but I think I was doing better with that plan. Just wondering if running is in general harder on the inside shoes or is this odd?

    Bugs

    Cashmason


    9-12-2010 w/ Charlie

      Same thing is happening to me,  well sometimes the middle of the calf too.


      Bugs

        Cash,

        I'm SO VERY TIRED of it I went bike shopping today and going back again tomorrow. Only thing is biking seems like a hassle, and will likely annoy the hell out of my spouse. Sad

         

         

        Should I try calf supports like Zensah's?

        Bugs

        bhearn


          Well first off, that sounds like the soleus muscle. Do you do soleus stretches?


          "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasn't tired and kept running anyway" -- Ennay's 7-year-old daughter


          Member Since 2008

            Bugs, first off, it's nice to hear from you, been a while since we talked.  As far as knots in your calfs, the best thing is a product called "the Stick".  Google it.  You will aslo find it in most running store.  It works great for knots in your muscles.  I brought mine to my last marathon and was the most popular person at the finish line. 
            RunAsics


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              Try Superfeet in your shoes before by a different type.
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              Pammie


                Well first off, that sounds like the soleus muscle. Do you do soleus stretches?


                 I agree

                 

                You need to do both types of stretching for the calf the straight knee and the bent knee.

                 

                My calf esp the soleous does tend to get tight even injured it last year

                  Are they knots or cramps?   If they are the former and not the later I would suggest that you do some research on trigger point therapy.


                  Bugs

                    Knots, and it is not soleus, it is the inside of my calf muscles only. It starts there, and then tendons to the knee get knotted up, sore next. I get graston to get rid of it as the knots (and scar tissue) is very difficult to do on my own but would like it to stop coming. It might be from a sudden transition from TM to pavement with the winter thaw. I am also very good at foam rolling after a TM run (since I'm at home) and don't even stretch after a regular run. That and I went swimming on a recovery day, and I really tense my calves swimming and shouldn't have done that. Just makes me wonder if I'm not using all of my calf muscles, since only the inside gets hurt.

                    Bugs

                    bhearn


                      Knots, and it is not soleus, it is the inside of my calf muscles only. 

                       

                      But... the soleus is the inside calf muscle: http://www.fitstep.com/Advanced/Anatomy/Calves.htm

                       

                      It starts there, and then tendons to the knee get knotted up, sore next. 

                       

                      Hmm, but it's the gastrocs (outer calf muscles) that have tendons to behind the knee.

                       

                      I am also very good at foam rolling after a TM run (since I'm at home) and don't even stretch after a regular run. 

                       

                      You might want to throw in some gastroc and soleus stretches. Certainly, if some calf muscle is knotted.


                      "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasn't tired and kept running anyway" -- Ennay's 7-year-old daughter


                      What does Tunis make?

                        I only got calf cramps from swimming, before yesterday -- so my deduction is that swimming works the calves. But I've nothing else remotely helpful to contribute here; sorry.

                        It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

                        bhearn


                          I don't swim, but my understanding is that calf cramps occur frequently to swimmers because the calf muscles are shortened when the toes are pointed. Stretching the muscles relieves the cramps, but that doesn't happen naturally while swimming.


                          "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasn't tired and kept running anyway" -- Ennay's 7-year-old daughter

                          vendoo


                            new member, my first post, but wow can I relate!

                             

                            I have similar problems with knots in my calves. Most of them are in the inside calf muscle, but I have them throughout. Yesterday I massaged out at least 3 knots per leg. They tend to go away after a good massage (self, or from the girlfriend when I'm lucky), and stretching. But it sure does take a lot of stretching. If I don't stretch for at least 10 minutes after running, I feel my calves tighten right up as I cool down.

                             

                            All that being said, these calf knots are new to me, and really started shortly after I switched to a midsole striking stride after reading born to run. Not sure how these forums feel about the book / barefoot running, but I enjoy it, even if it causes some calf pain.

                             

                             I also agree with the swimming comment. My calves tighten up, sometimes cramp, when swimming after a long run and pointing my toes. Eventually works itself out with proper hydration and stretching.

                             

                              I battled calf issues off and on  for about 18 months.  I'm finally free of them!  For me, speed work and hills were major triggers but definitely swimming (pointing your toes) irritates them. Once you get a knot, you have to stay on top of it until it's gone!  IME, the Stick doesn't work...you need someone to dig in there and aggressively work on those knots.  I did ultrasound on the area and then had massage to work on them out.  I know it's supposed to help some other ailment, but I also started rotating my ankles/doing the abc's with my toes before I get out of bed every morning, it helped a ton.  Of course, the calf stretches someone else mentioned, are good too.

                               

                              To prevent them, I did very little speed work or hills...for a couple marathon training cycles.  I also gave up my high heels/platform shoes.   I have mapped out my calf issues to fall/winter,  when I begin wearing my heavier shoes with hard soles like Keens, Danskos, and Ariats.  Going barefoot or wearing flip flops made a huge difference in relieving the pain and strengthening my calves.  I was told to get superfeet when the problem first started and ended up not being able to run for 4 weeks...skip inserts and just buy shoes that fit. 

                              Jennifer
                              mm#1231
                              Ed4


                              Barefoot and happy

                                One culprit that people often miss is the shoes they're wearing when they're not running.  Anything with a raised heel will tend to leave you with shorter, tighter calves.  Even the little bit of lift in mens dress shoes can do it.  Womens shoes can be far worse. 

                                 

                                It's also more common that people experience calf issues in the spring, because that's when they finally get their flat shoes (flip flops, etc) out and stop wearing boots with raised heels.  At least that's what I remember hearing from an orthopedic doc.

                                 

                                Some people swear by using a slant board to stretch the calves and gradually get them longer and looser.

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