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| Posterior shin splints, my ass! (Read 468 times) |
| view log Puffer, not huffer |
posted: 5/10/2008 at 9:22 PM |
Hi all--this is my first post in the main community--sorry for the bad pun in the title. I have a question about the pain in my left leg.
It's what took me out of running last time I tried (only then it was the right leg)--I have pain running down the inside of my lower leg, midway between the calf and the ankle. After much fun self-diagnosing over the Internet, it sounds like posterior shin splints. Anyone have any experience with this? It's rather discouraging, since I am wearing big dorky stability shoes PLUS orthotics from my podiatrist. Should I up the stability? Lower the stability? Shake my fist at the pronation gods for not granting me the ability to walk like normal people?
I'm taking some time off between runs, and icing, and stretching. Hopefully this will go away, but I wanted to ask for advice and see if anyone else had any experience with this. I'm currently on W7 D2 of the C25K plan if that helps any.
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| view log Monkey Scratch |
posted: 5/10/2008 at 9:27 PM |
This is really tough to do over the internet since the list of possible causes is extremely long.
I recommend you take your running shoes and orthotics and go to a local running specialty store. If they are garden variety shin splints, it can often be corrected by simply changing shoes.
That's where I would start. Seeking quasi-medical advice for something as nebulous as 'shin splints' over the internet is not a good idea. |
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posted: 5/10/2008 at 9:35 PM |
Thanks, Marcus! Don't worry--I like to think that I have enough common sense to separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of advice received over the Internet. I don't know--it didn't seem like a "nebulous" query to me. I'm sorry you felt that way. 
I'll definitely do the running store visit, though. |
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| view log Monkey Scratch |
posted: 5/10/2008 at 9:55 PM |
Quote from LaineT on 5/10/2008 at 9:35 PM:Thanks, Marcus! Don't worry--I like to think that I have enough common sense to separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of advice received over the Internet. I don't know--it didn't seem like a "nebulous" query to me. I'm sorry you felt that way. I'll definitely do the running store visit, though.
I am sorry if I came across as snarky as it was not my intention. I was really being genuine for your best interest. Shin splints is a generic term for tibial pain anywhere from the knee to the ankle but can be caused by some many different things. Thus, it's very hard to give accurate, sound advice for correcting the problems since it's almost impossible to identify the cause over the internet.
I used to work at a running specialty store and helped tons of customers complaining of shin pain which is why I suggested you go that route first.
Right now you're doing the right thing such as rest and ice treatment. Let's hope a shoe change will get you fixed up and back out there 100%. |
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finney Resident pinniped |
posted: 5/11/2008 at 12:57 AM |
| Go check out my post in the "To support or not to support" thread. See if you find anything that might be helpful to you in there. |
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| view log Idiot |
posted: 5/11/2008 at 3:01 PM
modified: 5/11/2008 at 3:05 PM |
Quote from LaineT on 5/10/2008 at 9:35 PM:Thanks, Marcus! Don't worry--I like to think that I have enough common sense to separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of advice received over the Internet. I don't know--it didn't seem like a "nebulous" query to me. I'm sorry you felt that way. I'll definitely do the running  store visit, though.
LaineT - don't take Marcus the wrong way!! and certainly don't let it keep you from coming out of lurker-dom again!! I think your question is nebulous in the way most injuries described over the internet are! Why do you have the stabilizing shoes and orthodics?? Is it possible they are at the root of the issue? (i've heard about that sort of thing before)
Good luck at the running store!!
I think he also meant shin splints are nebulous due to the fact that they may be causing the pain but what you need to look for is what caused them and that can be harder to figure out?
Marcus - thanks for teaching me a new word! I inferred the meaning but then went to look it up just to be sure!! |
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posted: 5/12/2008 at 12:08 PM |
| I had a similar issue and even after a bone scan, the doctor couldn't make a real solid diagnosis. His advice (which I followed) was to just stay off it until it doesn't hurt, since that resolves shin splints and stress fractures! That took about 7 weeks. Anyway, if the best medical tests have trouble nailing these things down, even the best internet advice should be regarded as speculation only. |
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| view log Puffer, not huffer |
posted: 5/13/2008 at 9:06 PM |
Thanks so much for the advice, everyone. Particularly the advice about hypermobility. I'm hypermobile, too! While I've enjoyed spending years grossing people out with how far back I can bend my arm, I never made the connection that it could mean some problems with running down the line.
Off to the running store--hopefully, some new shoes will help me out here! |
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posted: 5/13/2008 at 9:09 PM
modified: 5/13/2008 at 9:13 PM |
| You haven't described why you think its shin splints, when I had them I could feel a definate lump on the shin bone and the scar tissue is still there now getting on for a year later. I have also torn a muscle in my calf and it sounds more like that. |
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posted: 5/13/2008 at 9:14 PM |
Posterior shin splints, my ass!
I see what you did there.
I like it.
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And I do agree with Nebulous Marcus. Actually, I think what he wrote should be posted permanently at the top of the Health & Nutrition section. We're a bunch of Internet bozos. Don't trust us with medical questions.
Especially Trent. What does he know? |
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| view log Puffer, not huffer |
posted: 5/13/2008 at 9:21 PM
modified: 5/13/2008 at 9:25 PM |
| Quote from jules2 on 5/13/2008 at 9:09 PM: You haven't described why you think its shin splints, when I had them I could feel a definate lump on the shin bone and the scar tissue is still there now getting on for a year later. I have also torn a muscle in my calf and it sounds more like that.
Because I just do, that's why. Damn, you all are harsh!
Seriously, I think it's shin splints (the posterior kind) because everything I've read online just adds up. It sounds to me like you had anterior shin splints--I have no pain on the bone that's located on the front of my leg. The pain is not in the calf, it's lower. I know this is also how compartment syndrome presents, but even though I have mighty bad luck in the leg injury department, I just don't think it is. For one, ice and stretching are helping immensely. Changing the direction in which I run has also helped, which I've read is also effective for shin splints.
Believe me, I'm the LAST person to ignore advice or try to trivialize a leg injury--I think what I am doing to try to manage it is working fine, and I have big exciting plans to go the running store and get my gait analyzed again. Armed with the information presented to me in this thread, I'm pretty sure I can get this under control.
Edited to add: I completely understand the nebulous thing--it was the leg pain that made me snappish, I swear! It must get pretty old for you all to be like "maybe it's shin splints, maybe it's not--go see someone that knows" over and over again. I did a search for "posterior shin splints" and didn't find too much, so I thought it would be worth starting a new thread. And it was!
And I'm pretty damn harsh myself, at times.
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posted: 5/13/2008 at 9:25 PM |
Get professional help for your leg and your attitude, I was only trying to help. I can't see where I was "harsh" |
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| view log Puffer, not huffer |
posted: 5/13/2008 at 9:32 PM |
| Quote from jules2 on 5/13/2008 at 9:25 PM: Get professional help for your leg and your attitude, I was only trying to help. I can't see where I was "harsh"
Oh, calm it down, will you? I described the symptoms in my first post, and you responded saying that I hadn't described why I thought I had the OMG shinsplintz0rz. So I did. Again.
Let's not start saying things we can't take back. |
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sgramm |
posted: 5/29/2008 at 12:22 AM |
| I'm with you. I had the exact same pain, exact same leg. I am now entering my third attempt at a running season. Two years ago, I had the pain in both legs, ending with a fracture. Didn't know it at the time, and ran on it. I had dismissed the pain, as shin splints. Little did I know. At the end of the season, after I ran the Death Race, I went to the professionals and got orthotics. This year, I do not have any shin splints, but I still have the dull pain of the fracture. Ice and Ibuprofen are my two companions for running. Can't do without them! |
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| view log Bugs |
posted: 5/29/2008 at 12:28 AM |
| Who's idea it was to wear the orthotics in the stability shoes? This could be too much and causing you to overcorrect. Something to ask your doc about. |
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