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I am not a troll.
Goodbye and you do not have to worry about me or my other screen name posting here ever again
What does Tunis make?
It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.
You can try to lead me by setting a good example, but you can't make me follow.
Please don't follow me. Just sayin goodbye and may you have a good life.
I am not a troll. Goodbye and you do not have to worry about me or my other screen name posting here ever again
It took you only 8 minutes to break your word?
Well it would be rude to not reply to someone directly, and I thought if I am indeed considered to be a troll here then the "do not feed the troll" axiom would apply in my case also.
I am still curious about the physiology and adaptive mechanisms involved with running and other aerobic training.
I found this article that causes me to ask alot of questions about the mechanical stresses that arteries experience during vigorous aerobic training and a possible connection to Linus Pauling's research into vitamin C.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartDisease/coronary-plaque-plague-long-distance-runners/story?id=10140233
quote:
"A group of elite long-distance runners had less body fat, better cholesterol and blood lipid profiles, and better heart rates than people being tested for cardiac disease. Paradoxically, however, the runners had more calcified plaque in their heart arteries, according to a study reported this week."
I don't know who or what you are (though I guess I CAN call you a liar now???) but I kind of vaguely remember you are the one who always post some newspaper articles to stir things up (though, I guess, technically, you are not showing any intention of "stir things up"; you just post some contraversial stuff and seemingly enjoy people get worked up...I think we know another guy like that!).
It is actually pretty interesting article. But, in the end, I just loved the line where they said: "No one is sure exactly what the plaque finds mean..."
Years ago, doctors said if you have the enlarged heart, you're done. If I remember it correctly, that was the reason why "Mr. Marathon", Clarence de Mar had to miss some marathoning--because doctors found his heart quite a bit larger than "normal" heart and told him, if he continued to run, he would drop dead. Well, today we know that healthy dose of endurance exercise would make our hearts BIGGER and STRONGER.
Likewise, years ago, physiologists used to say that lactic acid is a bad guy and it cloggs up our muscles to stop it from working. Now, they say lactic acid is a friend--it's actually a energy source. My hunch is that; physiologists found the accummulation of lactic acid in tired muscles. "A-ha!" they thought, "that (lactic acid) is why muscles get tired..."
A scientist tried to figure out what part of the body flea uses to "hear". So he trained this flea to "jump" on the command of "Jump!" He removed the first set of legs and shouted; "Jump!" The flea jumped just fine. So he removed the second set of legs and shouted, "Jump!" It still jumped fine. So he finally removed the last set of legs and shouted, "Jump!" The flea didn't move. "A-ha!" he concluded, "fleas use the last set of legs to 'hear'!"
I had a in-depth talk about cholesterole with two of the leading exercise physiologists in the country. Interestingly, both of them thought it more or less a hype driven mainly by drug industory. I'm sure high level of bad cholesterole is not good for you; but there are just way too many things we don't know enough about to say "this causes that".
I'm certainly no medical expert (Trent?) but I'd like to think that I hve enough common sense to question some silly remarks--which seem to lead me to question a lot of these "newspaper" articles, even some so-called "scientific" researches. Certainly, I wouldn't consider someone who "had run at least one marathon a year since 1985" an elite. The article starts out by stating "elite long distance runner..." and go straight into "well, but the runners had..." That alone, to me, was a yellow flag--all they want, seemingly to me, is to stir things up. They are not necessarily talking about elite runners; they are not talking about people who do fair amount of aerobic exercises regularly. They are simply talking about someone who runs one marathon a year. Unfortunately, thanks to RA message board, I now know there are so many people out there who "prepare themselves inadequately" simply to run a full marathon for whatever the reason... Personally, I wouldn't recommend anybody to go straight into doing some fast sprinting workout--like some other people might--without building a good aerobic base first. I know that could be dangerous--I don't give a damn how much more effective such hard high intensity workout can raise VO2Max than "conventional long slow running of an hour or more a day"; I know that could be dangeous to do so--I don't need some scientific research to tell me that. Likewise, I wouldn't recommend people to jump to attempt a full marathon with only a few months of sporadic preparation.
Scientists usually find something interesting--that could mean nothing in a practical sense but something interesting--they need to keep doing that to keep getting some funding. Then some newspaper reporter would start shouting; "Sky is falling...!!" And then some people who have way too much free time at hand would post it everywhere, echoing that the sky is falling to make people worry or enjoy seeing others worry or get worked up. To me, THAT is an interesting phenomena...
Thanks, for that bit of info
A number of elite runners, or former elite runners have suffered with cardiac problems and coronary plaque and I will mention no names because I remember the last discussion that was closed down by the moderator and how all the old salts of this forum were very angry.
So I will say goodbye to you also Nobby and wish you a good life.
Don't feed me any more, I am a troll, remember?
I'm putting together a DVD of Arthur Lydiard's lecture. In it, he talked about his old friend from New Zealand, who was a ultra marathon runner who ran 70, 80, 90 miles a day. He died of a heart attack. We all know at least one who ran and died of a heart problem. But I also know a guy who never ran and died of a heart attack too. As we all know, a guy who was listening to an iPod and a plane crashed on him and killed him. I was running with an iPod yesterday (at the club) but no plane landed on me. I guess that theory didn't really work...
I feel good when I run; I feel stronger when I get in shape by running more. I don't know how much calcium plaque I'm getting in my blood stream--it may be actually cleaning the inner wall of the arteries, who knows??? As unscientific and ignorant as I am, I'd rather just leave it at that. And I wouldn't worry too much about what other people might say. After all, some people might tell you that he/she would never post anything any more and, mere few minutes later, turn around and post something one after the other. How reliable can it get?
...I am a troll, remember?
mileage hound
I've never understood why people need to make some big announcement that they are leaving....and then they don't. Is it like faking your own death so you can see who shows up at your wake?
If you are done here, just go and move on with your life.
2012 goals: Fastest race times since 2006.
Menace to Sobriety
What's your other screen name?
He's Gumby, dammit!!
I du! (+CX +Mtn.)
I've never understood why people need to make some big announcement that they are leaving....and then they don't. Is it like faking your own death so you can see who shows up at your wake? If you are done here, just go and move on with your life.
Kirsten
'07: 1324.5 ••• '08: 1561 ••• '09: 1810.9 run ~ 208.7 bike ••• '10: 1,000.3 run ~ 3513.5 bike ••• '11: 710.3 run ~ 4157.9 bike
run 750 mi
bike 3500 mi
• more off-road
• gain proficiency @ CX mounts and dismounts (ie stop leap-frogging w/people who ride slower after every obstacle -- finish further up the field)
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