Core Exercises (Read 1413 times)

sport jester


Biomimeticist

    Dude, please stop.

     

    Why? Because you can't answer the question and that pisses you off.

     

    Or is it because no science backs you up?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18978631

    Experts said the world is flat

    Experts said that man would never fly

    Experts said we'd never go to the moon

     

    Name me one of those "experts"...

     

    History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

    sport jester


    Biomimeticist

      Or should I just keep going with the studies that prove your ignorance of the training subject?

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15320664

      Experts said the world is flat

      Experts said that man would never fly

      Experts said we'd never go to the moon

       

      Name me one of those "experts"...

       

      History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

        My chances of becoming a D1 football player are pretty slim.  6 weeks of one specific core training having no effect on young athletes has nothing to do with me.

         

        mta:  But I'm sure you are right.  Congratulations, you win.

         

        sport jester


        Biomimeticist

          And your chances of running faster are even more slim.

           

          So quit thinking you're qualified to offer any training advice and we'll call it good.

          Experts said the world is flat

          Experts said that man would never fly

          Experts said we'd never go to the moon

           

          Name me one of those "experts"...

           

          History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

          scappodaqui


          rather be sprinting

            When did this board turn into letsrun?

             

            http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Endurance-Performance-Conditioning-Association/dp/0736083278

             

            Go read that and tell me you have no idea what core training does for running.  Go ahead, do it.  Top trainers in the field.

             

            Alberto Salazar has his runners train core (med ball, light complexes, stability work). As do, you know, all reputable college and pro coaches.  I wonder why?  They are ALL STUPID!

             

            http://www.kinetic-revolution.com/alberto-salazar-on-strength-training-for-runners/

            PRs: 5k 19:25, mile 5:38, HM 1:30:56

            Lifting PRs: back squat 176 lb

            sport jester


            Biomimeticist

              The question of any training program, regardless to core stability training, conventional weight training, or following the program of any level running coach is quite simple; how will they improve the way anyone runs?

               

              Better yet, what's perfect? What measurements define an athlete running at peak biomechanic ability?

               

              How does core stability exercises improve your running economy?

               

              If you can't answer that question, which is a requirement to run faster, why would you waste your time following it?

               

              And as to Salazar, his reputation is for injuring runners, not teaching them to be better.

               

              He also has the luxury of having uncle Phil's credit card to buy any athlete he wants. But all of them are good runners to start with, and for all his god stature in running, he and his Oregon Project has yet to teach anyone to take the Boston crown from the its current geographical dominants regardless to what exercises he does with them.

               

              Funny that Salazar can't explain the women of Kenya either...

              Experts said the world is flat

              Experts said that man would never fly

              Experts said we'd never go to the moon

               

              Name me one of those "experts"...

               

              History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

                 

                Funny that Salazar can't explain the women of Kenya either...

                 

                There have been unverified reports -- and a handful of poor-quality photos -- that purport to prove the existence of women in a number of countries around the world. I remain deeply skeptical.

                sport jester


                Biomimeticist

                  Experts said the world is flat

                  Experts said that man would never fly

                  Experts said we'd never go to the moon

                   

                  Name me one of those "experts"...

                   

                  History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong


                  Prince of Fatness

                    So quit thinking you're qualified to offer any training advice and we'll call it good.

                     

                    You should do this.

                    Semi-retired.

                    sport jester


                    Biomimeticist

                       

                      You should do this.

                       

                      I didn't concede the debate...

                      Experts said the world is flat

                      Experts said that man would never fly

                      Experts said we'd never go to the moon

                       

                      Name me one of those "experts"...

                       

                      History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

                        I just had a Triple Berry Newton.  It was much tastier than a Fig Newton.

                         

                        sport jester


                        Biomimeticist

                          I just had a Triple Berry Newton.  It was much tastier than a Fig Newton.

                           

                           

                          I've used the link many times with private clients. Thanks for sharing it with others.

                           

                          The only question is how your diagram translates to improving human running speed.

                          Experts said the world is flat

                          Experts said that man would never fly

                          Experts said we'd never go to the moon

                           

                          Name me one of those "experts"...

                           

                          History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

                          scappodaqui


                          rather be sprinting

                            I think the idea is, run faster or the ostrich will get you.

                             

                            The fact is, the stronger you are (full-body with minor exceptions--I don't know what value bicep isolation has for running) the better your force production.  If you have a weak core it's hard to strengthen everything else.  It's all connected.  Not the best example (some of the exercises are silly) but the ideas here are what I'm driving at:

                             

                            http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_1/a-new-approach-to-strengt.shtml

                             

                            But sport jester can't even write coherent English, so I don't know what I expect from this thread.  I just like feeding the trolls and I'm miffed when people scoff at crosstraining.  Strength matters.  Period.

                            PRs: 5k 19:25, mile 5:38, HM 1:30:56

                            Lifting PRs: back squat 176 lb

                              I think the idea is, run faster or the ostrich will get you.

                               

                              scappodaqui, You can't outrun an ostrich and they can be real assholes. Here's a diagram that might improve your survival rate by at least 20%.

                               

                                 they can be real assholes.

                                 

                                That's because they are birds.

                                Runners run.