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How Far Is Too Far? Pushing our bodies to do more can be dangerous. Even fatal (Read 1623 times)

bone_china


    An interesting article. Any comments?
      An interesting article. Any comments?

       

      Here's my counter: http://www.lydiardfoundation.org/blog/EntryDisplay.aspx?EntryID=106

       

      In his book, "Running Your Best", fellow Minnesotan, the late Ron Daws, tells a story of this young college student who went out for a run in one winter day only to find out, when he got back, his legs all purple and frost-bitten.  He almost lost both his legs!  Is winter running dangerous?  Well, I don't have the book in front of me but I guess it was very much colder than freezing temp and this guy went out for a run in shorts.  This morning, as my wife and I went to one of local Turky Trot 5k race in 32F temprature, we saw one guy running in singlet and shorts.  The fact of the matter is; more people have died from running in the summer heat than losing legs by running in the winter.  But the story like this will circulate and people would talk more dramatically.

       

      Train properly; train sensibly; listen to your body instead of following some bogus schedule; and there's NO DOUBT running is hell of a lot healthier and safer than not running PERIOD.

        Articles like this make me chuckle.

         

        Wasn't there an Onion headline recently...?  Something like:

         

        "Non-Runner dies whilst not running!"

         

        For every runner who dies running there are probably 999,999 non-runners who die while not running.

         

        The choice is yours.

         

        I can confirm that anyone running marathons or ultra marathons will die.

        What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles; Miles of Trials


        We've Got Big Hills

          The article is full of errors.  For example, the rate of death in during running is 1:129,000 (less frequent then the rate of death during airplane flights), not 1:200,000 as quoted.  Also, the article states that runners died during the Detroit Marathon, but it was the half marathon.  Hard to take an article full of errors seriously.  Purdey's example is far more accurate.

            Of course, it wasn't the Onion, it was Runners' World.

             

            Thanks Trent.

            What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles; Miles of Trials


            Decker Challenge 12/12

              I chuckled at the Troponin comments. I still had elevated levels on my 3rd trip to the ER and it was caused by my stomach! On the first two trips they had already put a stent in and roto routered (angioplasty) two other arteries. No one could explain it. They could only say the heart and stomach were the same type of muscle. Makes me wonder if the stomach isn't somehow involved in marathoners having elevated Troponin T levels?

              bob e v
              2012 goals: keep on running! Is there anything more than that?

              Finish 2 halves, 3M Half 1/29 and probably Decker Challenge in Dec
              history: blessed heart attack 3/15/2008; c25k july 2008 first 5k 10/26/2008, 62nd birthday; 1st 10k 2/28/2009 - 50 wks from heart attack to 10k; 1st Half Marathon 11/9/09 20 months from heart attack! !

              JimR


                http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/sunrunexperts/archive/2009/02/13/live-long-and-prosper-21year-running-study-results.aspx

                 

                 

                "1000 people took part in the 'annual survey style study' that began in 1984. Half of the participants in the study were members of a national running club and over the age of 50. While the other half that formed the control group were healthy Northern Californians.

                Of the 1000 participants, now in their 70's and 80's, only 284 runners and 156 people from the control group completed the 21 year study.

                The results of the study concluded that the runners remained youthful and fit in comparison to the members of the control group. The runners also smoked less and out lived the members of the control group by nearly 40%. The study showed that by year nineteen, only 15% of the runners had died compared to 34% of the control group. The study also showed that the aged runners had fewer physical disabilities and were more mobile and independant."

                  Good Stuff Jim...

                   

                  I doubt if many of us have to worry about pushing too far or too hard.......unless we can get our mileage in the 150 to 200 range.............I suspect were all pretty save overall.....

                  Champions are made when no one is watching

                    Good Stuff Jim...

                     

                    I doubt if many of us have to worry about pushing too far or too hard.......unless we can get our mileage in the 150 to 200 range.............I suspect were all pretty save overall.....

                     

                    Ah, John...  I'd have to disagree with this though.  When you think about it, it's not some elite or ultra peolpe who drop dead in public.  It is the middle (or toward the end) of the packer who try to run a marathon based on 15MPW training; or someone who might try to do the training program that might require a couple of HARD effort workouts a week with NO joggng or "junk miles" to support those hard effort.  I'd be curious to see what kind of preparation those who had "sudden death" during the marathon (or half marathon or whatever) did prior to.  I will bet they were not the hard core who ran 100MPW to prepare; but more of a "weekend worriar". 

                     

                    It is not 100MPW that would kill ya (of course, if you try to do that from 15MPW to 100 in a few weeks, it might...); but blast off 3 mile race from the start when you hadn't been properly prepared that might cause some damage to your body.


                    A Saucy Wench

                      I love how the article looks at a guy who died running and decides running is what killed him.  How about consistantly existing on deficient sleep.

                      I have become Death, the destroyer of electronic gadgets

                       

                      "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7


                      What does Tunis make?

                        Surely, the more you run per week, the more likely you are to die running.

                         

                        And I'm pretty confident that you can avoid the danger of dying while running, simply by avoiding running.

                         

                        Feel free to send me money to express your appreciation of my deep wisdom herein revealed.


                        It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

                          And I'm pretty confident that you can avoid the danger of dying while running, simply by avoiding running. 

                           

                          Best way to avoid death--stop living.

                            How about consistantly existing on deficient sleep.

                             

                             

                            True. I died on my run today after a night shift and only 4 hours sleep.

                            2012

                            3000 miles

                            Break 1:30:00 for half marathon

                            Break 40:00 for 10K


                            The King of Beasts

                              The Monkey almost killed me.

                               

                              "As a dreamer of dreams and a travelin' man / I have chalked up many a mile. / Read dozens of books about heroes and crooks, / And I've learned much from both of their styles." ~ Jimmy Buffett

                              “"I don't see much sense in that," said Rabbit.
                              "No," said Pooh humbly, "there isn't. But there was going to be when I began it. It's just that something happened to it along the way."”


                              We've Got Big Hills

                                Almost.

                                 

                                But it did not.

                                 

                                  it made you stronger.

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