2013 Sub-3:00 Marathon Goal Thread (Read 2194 times)

    It's not too early for folks to be planning their 2013 assaults on the 3-hour "barrier".  Just as in years past, here's the thread for it.  (There's lots of great stuff in the original sub 3:00 marathon thread (but it is 2,446 posts long!), the 2012 thread, and the 2011 thread.)

     

    We are here to support each other in this shared goal.  Some have broken 3:00 multiple times but love the group, so they stay and set new goals to break 3:00.  Other people might be 3:10 or above marathoners that are working toward the big 3-0-0.  All are welcome, and collectively all support each other the best we can.

     

    Welcome and please tell us a little about yourself.  I'm Clive – I ran a less than entirely intelligent 3:18 in NOV2012; training and the Running Gods willing, I plan to threaten 3:00 in Fall 2013.  I'm also one of the many people who read and are inspired by past and present versions of this thread.

     

    So post your target race(s) and let us know your age and if you've been sub-3 before (*); chat about training, races, and tweaking; and be sure to follow up with your results, good or bad!

     

    (*) = the format I have here is:

    [runner (age/sub-3 before?)] – [race date (race location)] – [Goal = (if other than sub-3)]   RESULT = ______

     

     

    2013 Hopefuls for sub 3:00 marathons (chronological order) (unless noted, goal is simply sub-3:00):

     

    Mr MattM (47/yes) – 03MAR2013 – Little Rock (Little Rock AR)  RESULT = _____

    cc4life07 (28/no) – 16MAR2013 – RnR DC (Washington DC)  RESULT = _____

    Roadkill Racing (38/yes) – 16MAR2013 – B&A Trail (Pasadena MD) – Goal = sub-2:38  RESULT = _____

    calbearsfan (47/no) – 17MAR2013 – Los Angeles (Los Angeles CA)  RESULT = 2:58:58

    Bash (30/no– 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 3:03:14

    BagOfSand (26/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = sub-2:40  RESULT = _____

    bhearn (47/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:58:14

    cbrad (41/yes)– 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = ______

    daubenspeck (45/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = ______

    Dakota RR (42/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = 2:55  RESULT = 3:31:37

    DoppleBock (44/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 3:12:39

    Fuzzy (48/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:58:21

    GregTR (36/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = sub-2:40  RESULT = 2:56:45

    joescott (46/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:56:39

    Nemo ME (37/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = 2:54:36  RESULT = 2:51:27

    PaulyGram (45/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = <2:45  RESULT = DNF (bad salmon)

    runnershawn (42/no) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 3:11:34

    SForrester (35/no) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:58:32

    xhristopher (39/no) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 3:08:50

    GregTR (36/yes) – 21APR2013 – London (London UK) – Goal = sub-2:50  RESULT = 2:58:48

    Roth Runner (40/yes) – 21APR2013 – London (London UK) – Goal = 2:40  RESULT = 2:49:03

    Oldman (51/no) – 26APR2013 – Country Music (Nashville TN)  RESULT = ______

    PaulyGram (46/yes) – 27APR2013 – Illinois Marathon (Boston MA) – Goal = BQ  RESULT = 2:59:00

    piwikiwi (44/no) – 04MAY2013 – Rotorua (Rotorua NZ)  RESULT = DNS

    jackdyl11 (30/yes) – 05MAY2013 – Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh PA)  RESULT = ______

    lagwagon (41/no) – 05MAY2013 – New Jersey ( NJ)  RESULT = DNS

    delucj (29/no) – 12MAY2013 – Cox Sports (Providence RI)  RESULT = 3:02:47

    spinach (55/yes) – 18MAY2013 – Fargo (Fargo ND) – Goal = 2:59:49  RESULT = 3:09:23

    Bash (30/no) – 19MAY2013 – Sugarloaf (Eustis ME)  RESULT = 2:58:11

    extendedsolo (30/no) – 19MAY2013 – Cellcom Green Bay (Green Bay WI) – Goal = sub-2:58  RESULT = DNF

    pabstars (47/__) – 19MAY2013 – Copenhagen (Copenhagen DK)  RESULT = ______

    Jeff (36/yes) – 26MAY2013 – Bob Potts (York PA)  RESULT = 2:56:40

    Viich (34/no) – 26MAY2013 – Ottawa (Ottawa CA)  RESULT = 3:09:00

    mikeymike (43/yes) – 26MAY2013 – KeyBank Vermont City (Burlington VT)  RESULT = 2:56:06

    jaxn (35/no) – 02JUN2013 – Rock&Roll San Diego (San Diego CA)  RESULT = 2:59:39

    Swampangel (51/yes) – 22JUN2013 – Grandmas (Duluth MN)  RESULT = 2:56:29

    DoppleBock (44/yes) – 23JUN2013 – Maritime (Manitowoc WI)  RESULT = 3:10:14

    flatfooter (39/yes) – 23JUN2013 – Maritime (Manitowoc WI)  RESULT = 2:56:38

    Gville Kevin (37/no) – 08SEP2013 – Lehigh Valley Via (Allentown PA)  RESULT = 2:58:37

    CincyRunnr (__/yes) – 21SEP2013 – Air Force (Dayton OH)  RESULT = ______

    GregTR (36/yes) – 29SEP2013 – Berlin (Berlin DE) – Goal = beat Boston 2013 time  RESULT = ______

    spinach (56/yes) – 06OCT2013 – Medtronic Twin Cities (Minneapolis MN) – Goal = 2:59:49  RESULT = 3:03:58

    B-Plus (35/no) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL)  RESULT = 2:55:12

    calbearsfan (47/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL)  RESULT = 2:53:58

    djschroeder4 (27/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL) – Goal = sub-2:45  RESULT = 2:47:27

    GregTR (36/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL) – Goal = sub-2:50  RESULT = 2:50:53

    jackdyl11 (30/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL)  RESULT = ______

    kader (28/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL) – Goal = 2:52-ish  RESULT = ______

    Hipfan (__/__) – 13OCT2013 – Green Mountain (South Hero VT)  RESULT = DNS

    Don S (39/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Whistlestop (Ashland WI) – Goal = sub-2:45  RESULT = DNS

    DoppleBock (44/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Whistlestop (Ashland WI)  RESULT = ______

    xhristopher (39/no) – 20OCT2012 – Baystate (Lowell MA)  RESULT = ______

    Buzzie (45/no) – 20OCT2012 – Detroit Free Press (Detroit MI)  RESULT = ______

    ChakaKahn (33/yes) – 20OCT2013 – Mount Desert Island (Bar Harbor ME)  RESULT = ______

    Jed (39/no) – 20OCT2013 – Detroit Free Press (Detroit MI) – Goal = 2:45  RESULT = ______

    MandyS (38/no) – 28OCT2013 – Dublin (Dublin IE)  RESULT = ______

    delucj – 03NOV2013 – Manchester City (Manchester NH) – Goal = 2:57  RESULT = 3:03:06

    GregTR (36/yes) – 03NOV2013 – New York City (New York NY) – Goal = sub-2:50  RESULT = ______

    lagwagon (41/no) – 03NOV2013 – New York City (New York NY)  RESULT = 3:01:29

    stadjak (40/no) – 03NOV2013 – New York City (New York NY)  RESULT = 3:04:01

    CliveF (49/no) – 16NOV2013 – Anthem Richmond (Richmond VA)  RESULT = ______

    jaxn (36/YES!) – 08DEC2013 – California International (Sacramento CA) – Goal = 2:50  RESULT = 2:46:09

    Roth Runner (40/yes) – 22DEC2013 – Portsmouth Coastal Waterside– Goal = 2:48  RESULT = 2:50:02

     

    In but not race-committed:

    csab (37/__)

     

     

    2013 Graduates (ordered by performance):

    jaxn (36/YES!) – 08DEC2013 – California International (Sacramento CA) – Goal = 2:50  RESULT = 2:46:09

    djschroeder4 (27/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL) – Goal = sub-2:45  RESULT = 2:47:27

    Roth Runner (40/yes) – 21APR2013 – London (London UK) – Goal = 2:40  RESULT = 2:49:03

    Roth Runner (40/yes) – 22DEC2013 – Portsmouth Coastal Waterside– Goal = 2:48  RESULT = 2:50:02

    GregTR (36/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL) – Goal = sub-2:50  RESULT = 2:50:53

    Nemo ME (37/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = 2:54:36  RESULT = 2:51:27

    calbearsfan (47/yes) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL)  RESULT = 2:53:58

    B-Plus (35/no) – 13OCT2013 – Chicago (Chicago IL)  RESULT = 2:55:12

    mikeymike (43/yes) – 26MAY2013 – KeyBank Vermont City (Burlington VT)  RESULT = 2:56:06

    Swampangel (51/yes) – 22JUN2013 – Grandmas (Duluth MN)  RESULT = 2:56:29

    flatfooter (39/yes) – 23JUN2013 – Maritime (Manitowoc WI)  RESULT = 2:56:38

    joescott (46/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:56:39

    Jeff (36/yes) – 26MAY2013 – Bob Potts (York PA)  RESULT = 2:56:40

    GregTR (36/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA) – Goal = sub-2:40  RESULT = 2:56:45

    Bash (30/no) – 19MAY2013 – Sugarloaf (Eustis ME)  RESULT = 2:58:11

    bhearn (47/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:58:14

    Fuzzy (48/yes) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:58:21

    SForrester (35/no) – 15APR2013 – Boston (Boston MA)  RESULT = 2:58:32

    Gville Kevin (37/no) – 08SEP2013 – Lehigh Valley Via (Allentown PA)  RESULT = 2:58:37

    calbearsfan (47/no) – 17MAR2013 – Los Angeles (Los Angeles CA)  RESULT = 2:58:58

    PaulyGram (46/yes) – 27APR2013 – Illinois Marathon (Boston MA) – Goal = BQ  RESULT = 2:59:00

    jaxn (35/no) – 02JUN2013 – Rock&Roll San Diego (San Diego CA)  RESULT = 2:59:39

    “Everything you need is already inside.” -- Bill Bowerman

    DoppleBock


      Dopplebock  4/15  Boston Marathon  Boston, MA  Sub 3

       

      I sure hope I get it taken care of at Boston as it is the only marathon I am hoping to run in 2013 and I was to hit my 10th consecutive year with a sub 3.  If not, I will be running something in fall 2013.

      http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

      2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35  

       

        Thanks, Clive. Go ahead and put my name in for Boston. I ran 3:03:32 at Boston in 2011 and would like to improve by at least 3:33 next April. I hope that's not too much to ask for.

          Clive, thanks for doing this again.

           

          Please put me down for Boston.  I'd like to run it under 2:50.

           

          MTA:  Does it help to go ahead and put it in this format for you?

           

          joescott  4/15  Boston Marathon  Boston, MA  2:49

          - Joe

          We are fragile creatures on collision with our judgment day.

          DoppleBock


            After years of ruining my speed with ultra-running ... I plan on spending until Boston actually working on getting faster again.

             

            My current thoughts are to spend Jan-Feb with 1 LAT run each week and the other run either 3-4 x (5x400 with 400 recovery) with 800 recovery between each set of 5) or 10x400 with 5-6% inclince (TM) with 400 receoveries.

             

            Both of these are done at a pretty high effort to work on my stride - I am hoping to do the flat workout at 12.0 MPH and the hill one @ 10-10.5 MPH.

             

            Mar - Boston will then see me continue with the LAT workout each week and lengthen the faster workout until it is 5x5 minutes at 30 minute race race.

             

            Plus I will either be doing a hilly trail run or a hilly TM run each week.

             

            After Boston I will go back to ultra-training.

            http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

            2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35  

             


            I'm back!

              I'm also struggling balancing ultras and marathon PRs. I would like to race Boston, but I have Rocky Raccoon 100 on the calendar in February, which really makes for non-optimal training.

               

              More generally, I'm considering switching from Pfitzinger to a Hansons plan for my next goal marathon. But that makes ultra training even harder -- they significantly shorten the long run, and there are fewer of them. (Also making it more problematic to throw in a handful of training marathons as long runs, as I prefer to do.)

               

              Maybe the only way to do it is to be strictly sequential about focus, as DB is doing.

               

              Anyone else who wants to run ultras, but also marathon PRs?


              "Journey" hater

                I'm new to these forums here but I'd like to be part of the 2013 goal thread. I do have a 2:55 PR from the fall of 2011 and now I would like to have a sub-3 Boston. I had every intention to go for it last April until mother nature decided to screw with us. Hopefully we won't have another day like that as I'm returning to try again.

                 

                Anyway...Boston 2013.

                  After going out too fast in Cape Cod* and falling apart for a 3:40:31 and then going out too slow* a week later for 3:17:30 in Manchester I'm going to make a go at the 3 hour mark in Providence, RI on 5/12/13:

                   

                  *My longest run in the 2 months prior to Cape Cod was 13.23 miles, so it probably wasn't my pacing that let me down so much as my fitness...I'm hoping this thread helps keep me honest so I actually train for Providence...

                   

                  delucj 5/12 Cox Sports Marathon, Providence RI 2:59

                   

                  Cheers and best of luck to all!

                  DoppleBock


                    I promised myself this year I would spend at least 3 months just training and doing no races.  Last year I did Houston Marathon in Jan, Crusty 50k Feb, Fox Cities marthon backward in Mar ... I just could not get in a training groove at all in 2012 as there was always another race coming up.

                     

                    So 3 months of nothing but training ... well almost as I am doing Clinton Lakes 30 miler March 23rd - That is probably a mistake ... But it is a pretty fun group going down to the race.

                     

                     

                     

                    I'm also struggling balancing ultras and marathon PRs. I would like to race Boston, but I have Rocky Raccoon 100 on the calendar in February, which really makes for non-optimal training.

                     

                    More generally, I'm considering switching from Pfitzinger to a Hansons plan for my next goal marathon. But that makes ultra training even harder -- they significantly shorten the long run, and there are fewer of them. (Also making it more problematic to throw in a handful of training marathons as long runs, as I prefer to do.)

                     

                    Maybe the only way to do it is to be strictly sequential about focus, as DB is doing.

                     

                    Anyone else who wants to run ultras, but also marathon PRs?

                    http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

                    2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35  

                     


                    I'm back!

                      I promised myself this year I would spend at least 3 months just training and doing no races. 

                       

                      See, for a marathon maniac, that is almost incomprehensible. But maybe necessary.

                      DoppleBock


                        Last year was enough proof to me that I need to either take some "Just training time" or learn to jog the races ... but I am not wired that way.

                         

                        Jan-Marathon

                        Feb - 50k

                        Mar - Marathon and 50k

                        Apr - Marathon

                        June 1 - 2 - 24 race

                        July 50k

                        Sep 1-2 = 24 race

                        Sep 6 hour race

                        Oct 50 mile race

                        Nov Marathon

                        Dec 24 hour race

                         

                        I am just not made to race that much.  I work much better building up to a race.

                         

                        Add a few shorter races and I will be @ 575-600 miles of racing for the year ... 10% of my mileage.  Way to much for me.

                        http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

                        2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35  

                         


                        I'm back!

                          My 2012 was similar:

                           

                          Jan - marathon

                          Mar - marathon, 50k

                          Apr - marathon, marathon

                          May - 50k

                          Jun - 50k, marathon, 100M

                          Jul - marathon, 50k, 50M

                          Sep - marathon

                          Oct - 50k

                          Dec - marathon (and maybe 24-hr)

                           

                          but most of those were just training runs. Only Big Sur (supposed to be Boston!), Western States, and Tucson this weekend were/are goal races.

                           

                          I think in principle this kind of schedule is fine. But it's not consistent with Hansons training, and I would like to try something different for my next goal marathon.

                            Oldman – 4/26/13 – Country Music Marathon – Nashville, TN – 2:59:59

                             

                            After a lousy 2012, I'm gearing back up to make another shot at a sub 3:00. Most of my attempts wouldn't leave the impression that it's even possible. I've run a 3:05 at the Flying Pig in 2009. Lot's of work to be done.

                             

                            51 years old. Been running for 22 years. All of my PR's have been set in the last couple of years.

                             

                            Haven't really decided if I'll try at Carmel, Indiana or Country Music. Just want to have this training cycle to coincide with the guys in my group who are training for Boston.

                             

                            Thanks, Clive for supporting this thread again this year.


                            Interval Junkie --Nobby

                              Stadjak -- Nov3rd -- NYC Marathon -- NYC -- 2:59:59

                               

                              Don't have a Spring marathon yet.  Might just do halves in the Spring.

                               

                              Oh, and may I suggest like in the other thread we flag Age (in 2013) and whether the person has ever been sub-3 before?  Would be interesting to read after the ear is ended.  40 here.  Current PR is 3:08.

                              2014 Goals:  sub-3 Marathon 

                              Current Status 11/10: Back to building up miles.  Junk feels mostly okay.  Kinda.

                              csab


                                Hi, Csaba here (yes, that's my real first name). Age 37 (male), runner since 2009. Right now I'm still focusing on half marathons. I'm signed up for the 500 Festival mini where I will try to go under 1:25 or maybe even better - we'll see how training goes. I have a HM PR of 1:25:18 on a somewhat hilly course, so it should be possible. Then I will build up to longer runs in the summer and try a marathon in the fall. I only ran one marathon (Kiawah Island 2009) basically as a beginner in 3:50-something. Though that corresponds to a sub-3:00 using the Paul Ryan conversion factor. Smile