How Far Is Too Far? Pushing our bodies to do more can be dangerous. Even fatal (Read 1071 times)

bone_china


posted: 11/27/2009 at 6:31 AM
An interesting article. Any comments?
posted: 11/27/2009 at 8:16 AM
Quote from bone_china on 11/27/2009 at 6:31 AM:
An interesting article. Any comments?

 

Here's my counter: http://www.lydiardfoundation.org/blog/EntryDisplay.aspx?EntryID=106

 

In his book, "Running Your Best", fellow Minnesotan, the late Ron Daws, tells a story of this young college student who went out for a run in one winter day only to find out, when he got back, his legs all purple and frost-bitten.  He almost lost both his legs!  Is winter running dangerous?  Well, I don't have the book in front of me but I guess it was very much colder than freezing temp and this guy went out for a run in shorts.  This morning, as my wife and I went to one of local Turky Trot 5k race in 32F temprature, we saw one guy running in singlet and shorts.  The fact of the matter is; more people have died from running in the summer heat than losing legs by running in the winter.  But the story like this will circulate and people would talk more dramatically.

 

Train properly; train sensibly; listen to your body instead of following some bogus schedule; and there's NO DOUBT running is hell of a lot healthier and safer than not running PERIOD.


06.05.54 3:59.4

posted: 11/27/2009 at 12:31 PM
modified: 11/27/2009 at 12:33 PM

Articles like this make me chuckle.

 

Wasn't there an Onion headline recently...?  Something like:

 

"Non-Runner dies whilst not running!"

 

For every runner who dies running there are probably 999,999 non-runners who die while not running.

 

The choice is yours.

 

I can confirm that anyone running marathons or ultra marathons will die.

Nothing to say at the moment.


monkey groovy

posted: 11/27/2009 at 12:52 PM
The article is full of errors.  For example, the rate of death in during running is 1:129,000 (less frequent then the rate of death during airplane flights), not 1:200,000 as quoted.  Also, the article states that runners died during the Detroit Marathon, but it was the half marathon.  Hard to take an article full of errors seriously.  Purdey's example is far more accurate.
peace, love and hills

I'm running somewhere tomorrow. It's going to be beautiful. I can't wait.


06.05.54 3:59.4

posted: 11/27/2009 at 1:05 PM

Of course, it wasn't the Onion, it was Runners' World.

 

Thanks Trent.

Nothing to say at the moment.


FW Half 11/8/09

posted: 11/27/2009 at 1:41 PM
I chuckled at the Troponin comments. I still had elevated levels on my 3rd trip to the ER and it was caused by my stomach! On the first two trips they had already put a stent in and roto routered (angioplasty) two other arteries. No one could explain it. They could only say the heart and stomach were the same type of muscle. Makes me wonder if the stomach isn't somehow involved in marathoners having elevated Troponin T levels?
bob e v
goals half marathon 11/8/20009, 2:59:44! with a head cold no less! 10k 12/12/2009 pr goal 11:30
history: blessed heart attack 3/15/2008; c25k july 2008 first 5k 10/26/2008, 62nd birthday; 1st 10k 2/28/2009 - 50 wks from heart attack to 10k
pb's 5k 36:06 10/18/09; 10k 1:15:36.4 2/28/09; 15k 2:08:20.9 9/7/09; half 2:59:44
posted: 11/28/2009 at 3:58 AM
modified: 11/28/2009 at 3:58 AM

http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/sunrunexperts/archive/2009/02/13/live-long-and-prosper-21year-running-study-results.aspx

 

 

"1000 people took part in the 'annual survey style study' that began in 1984. Half of the participants in the study were members of a national running club and over the age of 50. While the other half that formed the control group were healthy Northern Californians.

Of the 1000 participants, now in their 70's and 80's, only 284 runners and 156 people from the control group completed the 21 year study.

The results of the study concluded that the runners remained youthful and fit in comparison to the members of the control group. The runners also smoked less and out lived the members of the control group by nearly 40%. The study showed that by year nineteen, only 15% of the runners had died compared to 34% of the control group. The study also showed that the aged runners had fewer physical disabilities and were more mobile and independant."

posted: 11/28/2009 at 11:17 AM

Good Stuff Jim...

 

I doubt if many of us have to worry about pushing too far or too hard.......unless we can get our mileage in the 150 to 200 range.............I suspect were all pretty save overall.....

Favorite Quote - Run slow, but keep running.

Champions are made when no one is watching
posted: 11/28/2009 at 5:41 PM
Quote from John-A on 11/28/2009 at 11:17 AM:

Good Stuff Jim...

 

I doubt if many of us have to worry about pushing too far or too hard.......unless we can get our mileage in the 150 to 200 range.............I suspect were all pretty save overall.....

 

Ah, John...  I'd have to disagree with this though.  When you think about it, it's not some elite or ultra peolpe who drop dead in public.  It is the middle (or toward the end) of the packer who try to run a marathon based on 15MPW training; or someone who might try to do the training program that might require a couple of HARD effort workouts a week with NO joggng or "junk miles" to support those hard effort.  I'd be curious to see what kind of preparation those who had "sudden death" during the marathon (or half marathon or whatever) did prior to.  I will bet they were not the hard core who ran 100MPW to prepare; but more of a "weekend worriar". 

 

It is not 100MPW that would kill ya (of course, if you try to do that from 15MPW to 100 in a few weeks, it might...); but blast off 3 mile race from the start when you hadn't been properly prepared that might cause some damage to your body.


A Saucy Wench

posted: 11/28/2009 at 6:04 PM
I love how the article looks at a guy who died running and decides running is what killed him.  How about consistantly existing on deficient sleep.
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Run Stupider

posted: 11/28/2009 at 6:16 PM

Surely, the more you run per week, the more likely you are to die running.

 

And I'm pretty confident that you can avoid the danger of dying while running, simply by avoiding running.

 

Feel free to send me money to express your appreciation of my deep wisdom herein revealed.


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posted: 11/28/2009 at 6:40 PM
modified: 11/28/2009 at 6:40 PM
Quote from AmoresPerros on 11/28/2009 at 6:16 PM:
And I'm pretty confident that you can avoid the danger of dying while running, simply by avoiding running. 

 

Best way to avoid death--stop living.

posted: 11/28/2009 at 6:48 PM
Quote from Ennay on 11/28/2009 at 6:04 PM:
How about consistantly existing on deficient sleep.

 

 

True. I died on my run today after a night shift and only 4 hours sleep.


The King of Beasts

posted: 11/28/2009 at 7:07 PM

The Monkey almost killed me.

 

I've never met A1 but he seems like someone who I would prefer to be on my side in a fight. ~ L Train

“"I don't see much sense in that," said Rabbit.
"No," said Pooh humbly, "there isn't. But there was going to be when I began it. It's just that something happened to it along the way."”


monkey groovy

posted: 11/28/2009 at 7:19 PM
modified: 11/28/2009 at 7:19 PM

Almost.

 

But it did not.

 

  it made you stronger.

peace, love and hills

I'm running somewhere tomorrow. It's going to be beautiful. I can't wait.