unsportsmanlike conduct in cross country (Read 510 times)

MrH


     

    Didn't realize some places ran 3 miles.  Thought it was all 5k but I did notice a couple meet results for 4k races.

     

    Illinois runs 3 miles. I just checked and the top four schools in Illinois have their five scorers averaging under 15 for 3 miles for this season, and they will likely get a bit quicker before their championships. Seventh runner for York has run 15:18

     

    1 York High School (IL) 180
      1) Alex Bashqawi   14:40.00 13
      2) Nathan Mroz   14:42.00 15
      3) Matt Plowman   14:47.00 21
      4) Kyle Mattes   14:58.50 39
      5) Max Denning   15:14.00 92
      Average Time: 14:52.30 Total Time: 1:14:21.50 1-5 Split: 34.00
      6) Matthew Plowman   15:16.60 101
      7) Jon May   15:18.00 116
    2 Wheaton Warrenville South High School (IL) 205
      1) Nolan McKenna   14:29.00 4
      2) Luke Schroer   14:43.00 16
      3) Kyle Cepeda   14:55.00 31
      4) David Dillon   14:55.20 32
      5) David Santana   15:19.50 122
      Average Time: 14:52.34 Total Time: 1:14:21.70 1-5 Split: 50.50
      6) Michael Kinfe   15:53.00 378
      7) Gabe Lightbody   15:54.00 389
    3 Hersey High School (IL) 211
      1) David Rodriguez   14:40.00 12
      2) Andy Philipose   14:54.87 30
      3) Matt Stadnicki   15:01.41 44
      4) Jack O'neil   15:03.59 49
      5) Grant Von Der Lip   15:11.29 76
      Average Time: 14:58.23 Total Time: 1:14:51.16 1-5 Split: 31.29
      6) Erick Deloera   15:20.05 126
      7) Kevin Zigenhorn   15:28.00 175
    4 Hinsdale Central High School (IL) 290
      1) Billy Magnesen   14:36.86 9
      2) Kevin Huang   14:50.63 23
      3) Blake Evertsen   14:56.82 35
      4) Emmett Scully   15:11.59 79
      5) T.j. Caveney   15:22.51 144
      Average Time: 14:59.68 Total Time: 1:14:58.41 1-5 Split: 45.65
      6) Matt Mcbrien   15:24.92 157
      7) Alex Domiano   15:32.35 202

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      Geez those times are fast.

       

      Back in the early to mid 1970s when I ran high school cross country we also ran 3 miles; I made varsity as a freshman and was the top runner on my team and one of the top five in my league by the time I was a junior, however, my fastest 3-mile cross country race was *only* in the mid 15s.  That a school has five guys in the low 15s and faster is very-very impressive (at least in my mind).

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      • 1-mile (point to point, gravity assist): 5:50
      • 2-mile: 13:49
      • 5K (gravity assist last mile): 21:31
      • 5-Mile: 37:24
      • 10K (first 10K of my Half Marathon): 48:16
      • 10-Mile (first 10 miles of my Half Marathon): 1:17:40
      • Half Marathon: 1:42:13


      You'll ruin your knees!

        Well at least it wasn't bullying... or was it?

        ""...the truth that someday, you will go for your last run. But not today—today you got to run." - Matt Crownover (after Western States)

          The school Hersey was in the conference meet my son participated in last weekend. It's rare for them to be this good, and after next year, they'll likely go back to being average.  York is simply an amazing program... one that all other programs only dream of being.

           

           

          Illinois runs 3 miles. I just checked and the top four schools in Illinois have their five scorers averaging under 15 for 3 miles for this season, and they will likely get a bit quicker before their championships. Seventh runner for York has run 15:18

           

          1 York High School (IL) 180
            1) Alex Bashqawi   14:40.00 13
            2) Nathan Mroz   14:42.00 15
            3) Matt Plowman   14:47.00 21
            4) Kyle Mattes   14:58.50 39
            5) Max Denning   15:14.00 92
            Average Time: 14:52.30 Total Time: 1:14:21.50 1-5 Split: 34.00
            6) Matthew Plowman   15:16.60 101
            7) Jon May   15:18.00 116
          2 Wheaton Warrenville South High School (IL) 205
            1) Nolan McKenna   14:29.00 4
            2) Luke Schroer   14:43.00 16
            3) Kyle Cepeda   14:55.00 31
            4) David Dillon   14:55.20 32
            5) David Santana   15:19.50 122
            Average Time: 14:52.34 Total Time: 1:14:21.70 1-5 Split: 50.50
            6) Michael Kinfe   15:53.00 378
            7) Gabe Lightbody   15:54.00 389
          3 Hersey High School (IL) 211
            1) David Rodriguez   14:40.00 12
            2) Andy Philipose   14:54.87 30
            3) Matt Stadnicki   15:01.41 44
            4) Jack O'neil   15:03.59 49
            5) Grant Von Der Lip   15:11.29 76
            Average Time: 14:58.23 Total Time: 1:14:51.16 1-5 Split: 31.29
            6) Erick Deloera   15:20.05 126
            7) Kevin Zigenhorn   15:28.00 175
          4 Hinsdale Central High School (IL) 290
            1) Billy Magnesen   14:36.86 9
            2) Kevin Huang   14:50.63 23
            3) Blake Evertsen   14:56.82 35
            4) Emmett Scully   15:11.59 79
            5) T.j. Caveney   15:22.51 144
            Average Time: 14:59.68 Total Time: 1:14:58.41 1-5 Split: 45.65
            6) Matt Mcbrien   15:24.92 157
            7) Alex Domiano   15:32.35 202

            Oh for Pete's Friggin Sake, enough with the "bullying".  Every day on the news it's another bullying allegation

             

            Not everything is bullying and sometimes kids need to learn to fight there own battles.

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              Well at least it wasn't bullying... or was it?

               

              lol.

               

              so when i got dusted the other day at a race by some of those fast kids, was that bullying?

               

              My thought is, you do your best to accomplish a long term goal and if someone else gets their feelings hurt -- to bad for them.

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              Tomas

                I sorta doubt that a program like, say, York would have this sort of problem. That's all I'm saying.


                jules2

                  A question from the other side of the pond.  Looking at the times are these "proper" XC races with ditches, steep slopes, lots of mud and water etc or just a race around a grassy park?

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                    A question from the other side of the pond.  Looking at the times are these "proper" XC races with ditches, steep slopes, lots of mud and water etc or just a race around a grassy park?

                     

                    No...these are not european style XC races. Usually run in parks and golf courses in the midwest.

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                      A question from the other side of the pond.  Looking at the times are these "proper" XC races with ditches, steep slopes, lots of mud and water etc or just a race around a grassy park?

                       

                      It depends on the course and weather.  My kids have run on some incredibly muddy, hilly courses in New England.  Their home course is considered one of the tougher ones in the area.  I have photos of them covered with mud from head to toe.


                      Feeling the growl again

                        A question from the other side of the pond.  Looking at the times are these "proper" XC races with ditches, steep slopes, lots of mud and water etc or just a race around a grassy park?

                         

                        I have run some very muddy races, but we don't typically get the kind of frequenty, soaking weather my experience on your side of the pond indicated is normal this time of year.  It's just not as likely to be wet/muddy.

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                          I have run some very muddy races, but we don't typically get the kind of frequenty, soaking weather my experience on your side of the pond indicated is normal this time of year.  It's just not as likely to be wet/muddy.

                           

                          Well, we also don't have European style in terms of intentional obstacles and water crossings.


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                            Apparently there are some whiny Texan football parents, too.

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                              Apparently there are some whiny Texan football parents, too.

                               

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                              Well at least it wasn't bullying... or was it?

                              Runners run.

                                A question from the other side of the pond.  Looking at the times are these "proper" XC races with ditches, steep slopes, lots of mud and water etc or just a race around a grassy park?

                                I went to high school in Europe and ran cross country and would like to point out that you forgot to mention sheep, cow and horse shit.