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HR info ??? (Read 811 times)


The Greatest of All Time

    I agree with this completely. Racing HR and training HR are too variable, if that makes any sense.
    Makes perfect sense to me. Maybe some folks need to keep their HR at or below a certain level to ensure they finish the race. Same is true with pace. But I have always raced on feel. Somehow my body knows how hard to run for whatever distance I am going that day. Without fail, even during warm ups my HR is jacked before a race so all of the HR data I have monitored while training goes out the window. I don't understand how it works, but it does.
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      Here is Pfitzinger's take. Last section talks about races.


      The Greatest of All Time

        Here is Pfitzinger's take. Last section talks about races.
        He's 100% correct or at least in my case he is. This point is sort of getting buried in this thread but it's something that all of the HR zone training types should know.
        all you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be

        Obesity is a disease. Yes, a disease where nothing tastes bad...except salads.


        Dave

          The Pfitzinger stuff is consistent with my experience as well. I don't think any formulaic approach will work for most people. I do think, though, that over time, you can learn how YOUR body reacts to certain pace and HR levels and then use that to your advantage while racing. For me, its not unlike running by feel, just with some feedback to confirm. At the end of my marathon, I didn't my HRM to tell me that I was running out of gas. The heart rate that continued to climb even though I was slowing down confirmed it but I knew without looking. But since you're racing next week, I'd wear it and ignore so that you can get an idea for next time.

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          GreyBeard

            I've used the HRM on a marathon and half and for me, it is most useful during races only as an indicator of when you're pushing too hard. On a marathon, I've seen strategies that say, stay below 80% max heart rate (measured not the 220-age formula) for the first half, then let it climb from there.
            Same. I usually use my HR monitor during my races to monitor where I am with regard to Lactate Threshold. I ran a marathon in January and basically just kept the HR 1-2 point below my LT (173) until I get within a few miles and then say screw it and go as fast as i can manage. Did the same in a recent 1/2 marathon but let it get over LT early - still managed to do okay but last couple miles were painful. FYI - I think my HRMax is ~ 196 (doesn't jive with the 220-age as I am 38). Lap Pace Dist. Spd AvgHr MaxHR Cals 1 7:19 1.00 9.4 164 172 137 2 7:21 1.00 8.9 172 175 141 3 7:31 1.00 8.5 172 174 143 4 7:29 1.00 8.7 172 175 142 5 7:32 1.00 8.5 175 178 142 6 7:38 1.00 14.5 175 178 145 7 7:39 1.00 8.3 176 179 142 8 7:38 1.00 8.7 177 180 143 9 7:43 1.00 8.5 177 179 142 10 7:44 1.00 8.9 177 179 142 11 7:42 1.00 8.3 178 179 143 12 7:55 1.00 8.1 179 181 141 13 7:53 1.00 8.5 181 184 143 14 1:33 0.20 8.1 181 183 27

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