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posted: 5/1/2008 at 5:26 AM
modified: 5/1/2008 at 5:27 AM
I was looking at various marathons and noticed that the NYC qualifying times (much tougher than Boston). And, they have a qualifying half marathon time! Do the marathon times seem more aggressive than the half marathon times to anyone else?

http://www.ingnycmarathon.org/entrantinfo/applyfor2008.php

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posted: 5/1/2008 at 1:16 PM
The qualifying half looks pretty reasonable for Open - it's pretty close on the MacMillan running equivalent calculator.

Check out the extra 15min you get for turning 40! That's pretty surprising. Isn't that just 5min more aggressive than Boston?
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 1:35 PM
Boston does have a 35-39 group, while NY does not. So Boston goes 18-34 3:10:59, 35-39 3:15:59, 40-49 3:20:59

While NY is 18-39 2:55/1:23 40-49 3:10/1:30

I think the 40-49 half time is attainable. The 1:23/2:55 are pretty equivalent.
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Funky Monkey
posted: 5/1/2008 at 2:01 PM
There is a difference between Boston and NY "qualifying" times.

Generally, to run Boston AT ALL, you have to qualify.

By contrast, the NYC marathon has a limited number of slots, far fewer than the demand. People "register" for the slots before a deadline. More registrants register than there are slots. So the NYC Marathon has a lottery. After the lottery, registrants are informed if they got in.

You automatically get in the NYC Marathon (i.e., bypass the lottery) in any of the following conditions:

1. You get a qualifying time in a qualifying HM or Marathon, as per the OP
2. You fall through the lottery three times
3. You are a member of the NYRR
4. You are a VIP or running for a qualifying charity
It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys attack.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 2:05 PM
Quote from dcv2002 on 5/1/2008 at 1:35 PM:
Boston does have a 35-39 group, while NY does not. So Boston goes 18-34 3:10:59, 35-39 3:15:59, 40-49 3:20:59

While NY is 18-39 2:55/1:23 40-49 3:10/1:30

I think the 40-49 half time is attainable. The 1:23/2:55 are pretty equivalent.


No. If you're 45 (and male) when you run Boston, the qualifying time is 3:30. It's WAY easier.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 2:38 PM
Damn, NYC has lowered it's standards. Men's open used to be 2:45 / 1:15 IIRC.

I've qualified...if I want to run a marathon with 45,000 people. Which I'm pretty sure I don't.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 4:06 PM
Quote from Save Cheevers on 5/1/2008 at 2:05 PM:
No. If you're 45 (and male) when you run Boston, the qualifying time is 3:30. It's WAY easier.


Cheevers is very right. As those of us within sight of 45 know very well.

God bless that 10 minute jump.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 4:08 PM
Quote from Trent on 5/1/2008 at 2:01 PM:

2. You fall through the lottery three times


Out of curiosity, if you win in the lottery - can you defer it?

In other words, I'm sure I'll run NYC in the 3-4 years ... can I apply, sort of hoping to lose the lottery 3 years in a row ... but defer it if I win?

Somehow I'll bet I'm not the only one to think of this.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 4:23 PM
Quote from JakeKnight on 5/1/2008 at 4:08 PM:
Out of curiosity, if you win in the lottery - can you defer it?

In other words, I'm sure I'll run NYC in the 3-4 years ... can I apply, sort of hoping to lose the lottery 3 years in a row ... but defer it if I win?

Somehow I'll bet I'm not the only one to think of this.


If I remember correctly, you can defer for one year.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 9:13 PM
Quote from JakeKnight on 5/1/2008 at 4:08 PM:
Out of curiosity, if you win in the lottery - can you defer it?

In other words, I'm sure I'll run NYC in the 3-4 years ... can I apply, sort of hoping to lose the lottery 3 years in a row ... but defer it if I win?

Somehow I'll bet I'm not the only one to think of this.


You can defer, but you don't get your money back. So it will be a $166 loss each time you "win" the lottery...
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 9:17 PM
Gotcha. Thanks, Jim & Schneidr.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 10:07 PM
Just run the qualifying time. There. Done. Evil grin
I never knew NY had a qualifying time for guaranteed entry. I smell a goal! Shaking fist .... DAMM YOU ALL TO H-E-doublehockeysticks for bringing this to my attention.
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posted: 5/1/2008 at 10:12 PM
Quote from kencamet on 5/1/2008 at 10:07 PM:
Just run the qualifying time. There. Done. Evil grin
I never knew NY had a qualifying time for guaranteed entry. I smell a goal! Shaking fist .... DAMM YOU ALL TO H-E-doublehockeysticks for bringing this to my attention.


I'm with you. I'm kind of happy to see a new long term goal provided for me.

2:55? right now? Yeah, right.

3:10 ...in a couple years at 40? Well, someday, maybe ...

3:30 when I'm 50. Oh, yes.

You're right. Screw the lottery. I'll run it when I qualify.
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Hawt and sexy
posted: 5/1/2008 at 11:39 PM
Yeah, I kinda already figured this one out. I am guessing you get a better coral if you qualify. I will not do NY until I qualify.
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