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| IS it too much? (Read 881 times) |
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 4:37 AM |
| Quote from JakeKnight on 2/14/2008 at 9:52 PM:
For the inevitable results of too much too soon, see e.g. Kooky.
Yes - but I have a very nice arse to counteract my broken leg. Which makes me right in all respects even training choices. I'll let no one say different.
Derrick - stay in tune with your body and you will do fine. I had plenty of warning that I was doing too much but I am a 'too much type of gal' and I chose not to listen.
Good luck!!!
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| jlynnbob "HTFU, Kookie's distal tibia"
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 1:53 PM |
| Quote from kooky2003 on 2/15/2008 at 4:37 AM: Yes - but I have a very nice arse to counteract my broken leg. Which makes me right in all respects even training choices. I'll let no one say different.
Here's where I make the obligatory comment: this thread is just useless without pictures.
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 3:06 PM |
| Quote from CarmelRunner on 2/15/2008 at 4:07 AM: Tom - what constitues good form to you? I've read Pirie, Romanov, Galloway, Henderson, Lydiard, et al and can't seem to get a clear image. What do you and the forum think (and I hpe this doesn't start a holy war)
The single biggest improvement I made to my running was reading the book Programmed to Run by Thomas Miller. I spent an entire summer following his advice to increase my stride rate and decrease my stride length so I landed more on my mid-foot and less on my heels allowing my foot to absorb some of the shock instead of my knees. Reducing the amount of over striding resulted in fewer injuries and a faster average pace. I know there is a lot of dissention amount the ranks about the "magic" 180 step per minute stride rate but after practicing the drills and exercises in the book, my stride rate went from the high 150's to 180 and stayed there. That was five years ago and if I time my stride rate today it is still right at 180 so the training seems to have stuck.
Tom
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 3:16 PM |
| As for the original post. If you are itchin to get in two workouts a day I would suggest running once and picking another, lower impact, exercise for the second workout. ie. biking, swimming, lifting weights... but don't resist the urge to workout 2 times a day... just be smart about it. If your body says too much, ease up a bit. good luck. |
Runners around the state are getting better today ...are you one of them?
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 5:27 PM |
| Hey, two workouts a day, one with the girls from work and one with his wife, He's got this figured out better than any of us. |
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 6:13 PM |
You are correct... I missed that. Take back what I said...
Keep doing what you are doing. |
Runners around the state are getting better today ...are you one of them?
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 7:48 PM |
| Assuming they're both pretty easy workouts, sounds like a great plan. |
| 2008 Races:
3 May 08 - Lancaster 5K - 17:14
24 May 08 - CF 5K Champs - 17:16 (At Ottawa Marathon)
6 June 08 - CFB Gagetown Spring Thaw - 6.3km 22:29
15 July08 - Tuesday Night Track 1500 - 4:35
13 Sep 08 - Mercury March 10K - 38:44
21 Sep 08 - Army Run ½ marathon - 1:21:30.9 (10K PB in second half)
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 8:20 PM |
| Quote from Viich on 2/15/2008 at 7:48 PM: Assuming they're both pretty easy, sounds like a great plan.
Modified for perfection.
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| jlynnbob "HTFU, Kookie's distal tibia"
Where's my closet? I need to get back in it. |
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 8:28 PM |
| And, seriously, after a 12 year slump who can blame the guy? I say bravo. |
| "Good-looking people have no spine. Their art never lasts. They get the girls, but we're smarter." - Lester Bangs |
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posted: 2/15/2008 at 10:02 PM |
| Quote from Echo on 2/14/2008 at 8:50 PM: Although we are at very very slow paces right now and low mileage could this become a problem? I was wondering as long as my body can do it, can running twice a day be too much?
Derrick,
I'll share that I've been doing two-a-days for around 3 years. In the morning, I head out for 30 minutes with my wife at her speed (slowwwwwww) and get my "heart health" daily time in, that is the 30 minutes/day aerobic we all are supposed to do.
Then the evening and weekend sessions are mine for whatever I want to focus on: distance, pace, speed, stride, trying new routes, weekly mileage goals...whatever.
All these runner people here will probably flinch when they read this, but do keep in mind that brisk walking (15 min/mile) is a great low impact way to build base fitness for running.
Of course this is just my personal experience and not any sort of thing I'd swear is 'the way' to approach it. |
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posted: 2/16/2008 at 1:00 AM |
| Quote from MilkTruck on 2/15/2008 at 10:02 PM: .... but do keep in mind that brisk walking (15 min/mile) is a great low impact way to build base fitness for running.
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I have to agree, being a new runner (6 months) I am very slow, however I find I can run 10 miles a day, 5 to 6 times a week even during the winter without a problem 95% of the time. .......probably because I walk alot, being a mailman.  |
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posted: 2/16/2008 at 1:16 PM |
| Quote from MilkTruck on 2/15/2008 at 10:02 PM: Derrick,
I'll share that I've been doing two-a-days for around 3 years. In the morning, I head out for 30 minutes with my wife at her speed (slowwwwwww) and get my "heart health" daily time in, that is the 30 minutes/day aerobic we all are supposed to do.
Then the evening and weekend sessions are mine for whatever I want to focus on: distance, pace, speed, stride, trying new routes, weekly mileage goals...whatever.
All these runner people here will probably flinch when they read this, but do keep in mind that brisk walking (15 min/mile) is a great low impact way to build base fitness for running.
Of course this is just my personal experience and not any sort of thing I'd swear is 'the way' to approach it.
I've spent too much time on the 'black cadillacs' to dispute that walking can be very good exercise.
I'm not sure how far the 'black cadillacs' reach into pop lexicon, but I mean combat boots. |
| 2008 Races:
3 May 08 - Lancaster 5K - 17:14
24 May 08 - CF 5K Champs - 17:16 (At Ottawa Marathon)
6 June 08 - CFB Gagetown Spring Thaw - 6.3km 22:29
15 July08 - Tuesday Night Track 1500 - 4:35
13 Sep 08 - Mercury March 10K - 38:44
21 Sep 08 - Army Run ½ marathon - 1:21:30.9 (10K PB in second half)
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posted: 2/18/2008 at 2:09 AM |
Thanks again for the info this is definately great. I did my first two a day last Thursday and didn't run again until today. Friday I was pretty worn out. I am gonna still give it a whirl but maybe twice a week do a two a day instead of my original three times a week and then have a couple singles in there during the week. Ii have to admit, my work out with the wife is pretty slow but it definately meets the 30 minute "heart health". I should add she has never run before and is 8 years older, so my goal is keep her at a comfortable pace so she can eventually start to enjoy this.
I will let ya'll know how well or not the progress goes. We are all getting ready for the Susan B. Komen 5K at the end of March so there is a definate goal for everyone to get too.
Thanks again,
Derrick |
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posted: 2/18/2008 at 2:15 AM |
That's great you're running with your wife, Derrick! Just keep telling her how GREAT she's doing!! Never, ever imply that she's running slowly! She knows she is, but if she's like me, she doesn't want to hear it from you. One of the main reasons I'm still running is that my husband and son encourage me constantly, even though my efforts must seem a little humorous to them! I must add, though, that I just ran 7.1 miles, which is farther than DH has ever gone in his life (by 0.1 mile, lol).  I think your wife is about my age, so if I can do it, she can, too!
Good luck!
Teresa
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posted: 2/18/2008 at 2:37 AM |
| Quote from Echo on 2/18/2008 at 2:09 AM: my goal is keep her at a comfortable pace so she can eventually start to enjoy this.
Smartest thing I've read here all week.
And you're two-a-days are fine if you're only doing them 2-3 times a week and at that pace. They may be more than fine - they may really help you. For a while I was running regularly on Sundays at my better half's pace, and I discovered they were actually really helpful 'recovery' runs. |
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