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| MP3 Player on races: Tune in or ou? (Read 922 times) |
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posted: 1/22/2008 at 5:07 PM |
| I guess maybe I assume everyone has their music at the same volume as I do. I can see how if you had it genuinely loud enough to drown out all outside noise, this could be dangerous (even more so in a training run where there is traffic than the "safety" of a race course.) Music motivates me to a certain volume, then above that it becomes annoying. I have noticed lately on longer runs that I kinda zone out of the music anyway and don't really listen to it or even notice it. I think when I first started running I "needed" the music to distract me from the pain of the first couple of miles. I am going to try my next run sans Ipod and see how it goes. |
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posted: 1/22/2008 at 6:12 PM |
I think DJ Steve and Run to Win's comments most closely echo my opinions so I'll not iterate them here.
I did notice something interesting. In this month's RT, on page 43 the Buffalo marathon has an advertisement. I'm assuming it's a certified course, although the add doesn't state that specifically. Of the 9 pictures on the page, 6 show people listening to ipods. |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 4:59 PM |
| Quote from greenrunning on 1/22/2008 at 3:49 PM: I keep hearing about "incidents." Does anyone here have an actual first person account of an incident where they were put at risk by someone wearing headphones?
Here's a sad story where a girl probably died because of wearing headphones, and has now scarred her murderer for life. Poor guy will have nightmares every night and require a lot of counseling is my guess:
Alliance Teen Dies after Being Struck By Teacher's Car |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 5:17 PM |
| Quote from dnephin on 1/24/2008 at 5:09 PM: Methinks murderer is the wrong word for the teacher.
Based on the few facts that I have on the issue (which are in that article) I don't think that he is at fault for killing her. But he still did. And no matter what the legal definition of murder is, he's going to be beating himself up for it because he'll think that he murdered her. |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 5:44 PM |
Quote from Run To Win on 1/24/2008 at 4:59 PM:
Wow, that's terrible...for everyone involved.
I tried running without my ipod yesterday and was surprised to find that it really didn't make any difference. The slight motivation that I get from a few songs on my playlist wasn't there, but I felt almost liberated by not having to strap it on when I went out the door. I haven't decided yet if I'll use it in my next race, but it's nice to know that I don't "need" it. I have to admit I was a little scared of the thought of a run longer than 5k without it. I think the difference is when I first started running i desperately needed something to distract me from the pain just so I could keep going. I enjoy pushing myself through it now and don't need the music to distract me. |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 5:49 PM |
I don't want to get into semantics, or well, I guess I do, but "murder" implies malice and intent. I guess it's my reporting background and desire to avoid running into other words such as libel and slander. Generally, causing the death of another falls into the broad catefory of homicide, which may or may not convey intent.
But, agreed: This teacher will undoubtedly feel remorseful. |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 5:50 PM |
| Quote from greenrunning on 1/24/2008 at 5:44 PM: Wow, that's terrible...for everyone involved.
I tried running without my ipod yesterday and was surprised to find that it really didn't make any difference. The slight motivation that I get from a few songs on my playlist wasn't there, but I felt almost liberated by not having to strap it on when I went out the door. I haven't decided yet if I'll use it in my next race, but it's nice to know that I don't "need" it. I have to admit I was a little scared of the thought of a run longer than 5k without it. I think the difference is when I first started running i desperately needed something to distract me from the pain just so I could keep going. I enjoy pushing myself through it now and don't need the music to distract me.
Oh, and I think a point here that is just as important, is the fact that she was running at night. I try to run at lunch this time of year, but sometimes I can't and wind up running in the dark. I feel like I am totally invisible out there. I have some little reflector slap bracelets that I bought at Target and put around my ankles, but it seems almost pointless. What do you guys do to make yourself visible? |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 6:14 PM |
| Quote from greenrunning on 1/24/2008 at 5:50 PM: Oh, and I think a point here that is just as important, is the fact that she was running at night. I try to run at lunch this time of year, but sometimes I can't and wind up running in the dark. I feel like I am totally invisible out there. I have some little reflector slap bracelets that I bought at Target and put around my ankles, but it seems almost pointless. What do you guys do to make yourself visible?
I almost always run in the dark. I have a headlamp...although I usually wear it wrapped around my traffic side arm instead so I can wear my rain shielding ball cap. I stay off of traffic filled roads and I only run on roads with adequate shoulders. I dont like to run on sidewalks all the time, but I run on roads with sidewalks in the dark so I can move on to them if a car is coming. Most of these roads also have streetlights, but not all. These are NOT my preferred running routes, I live 1.2 miles from beautiful country roads, but I only run those in full daylight. I do loops in the neighborhood in the dark, even though it is repetitive and monotonous
I have also on occasion worn a reflective vest - I run Hood-to-Coast every year and there at night reflective vests are required. You gotta wear the reflective gear up high to be seen, ankle straps are pretty useless. I've seen runners with them you cant tell what is reflecting until you are almost on top of the runner.
I also have a clip on light that is meant for biking. In foggy weather I will wear it set to the blink setting and put that on my waistband so I have some light to the back even though I run facing traffic.
and relating to the original post...I never wear music, not in training, not in a race... |
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 6:39 PM |
| Quote from greenrunning on 1/24/2008 at 5:50 PM: I feel like I am totally invisible out there. I have some little reflector slap bracelets that I bought at Target and put around my ankles, but it seems almost pointless. What do you guys do to make yourself visible?
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 6:39 PM
modified: 1/24/2008 at 6:40 PM |
I can't keep the durned things in! So for me, they're out, training, races, whatever.
For what it's worth, as a teacher and a mom, here's where the problem lies . . . at least partly . . . lack of enforcement.
If you're going to make the rule, enforce it. So for all race directors out there, USATF, whoever. You're the gurus, you're telling us it's for our own safety. Fine, you make the rules, and you're the governing body. If we want to keep running the races, we have to keep abiding by your rules, don't we? Enforce them! How many times can I keep telling my child "I'm gonna count to three . . ." and expect him to listen? Some people want to drive without seatbelts, but if they get caught, they get ticketed, and we don't allow football players to play without pads just because they think they're tough. If the experts think it's unsafe to participate in the sport while being "plugged in," then enforce the rule.
That's my opinion, for what it's worth.
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 6:52 PM |
| Quote from dnephin on 1/24/2008 at 5:49 PM: I don't want to get into semantics, or well, I guess I do, but "murder" implies malice and intent. I guess it's my reporting background and desire to avoid running into other words such as libel and slander. Generally, causing the death of another falls into the broad catefory of homicide, which may or may not convey intent.
§ 2-201. Murder in the first degree
In general
(a) A murder is in the first degree if it is:
(1) a deliberate, premeditated, and willful killing;
(2) committed by lying in wait;
(3) committed by poison; or
(4) committed in the perpetration of or an attempt to perpetrate:
(i) arson in the first degree;
(ii) burning a barn, stable, tobacco house, warehouse, or other outbuilding that:
1. is not parcel to a dwelling; and
2. contains cattle, goods, wares, merchandise, horses, grain, hay, or tobacco;
(iii) burglary in the first, second, or third degree;
(iv) carjacking or armed carjacking;
(v) escape in the first degree from a State correctional facility or a local correctional facility;
(vi) kidnapping under § 3-502 or § 3-503(a)(2) of this article;
(vii) mayhem;
(viii) rape;
(ix) robbery under § 3-402 or § 3-403 of this article;
(x) sexual offense in the first or second degree;
(xi) sodomy; or
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posted: 1/24/2008 at 11:20 PM |
| Okay, so we've clearly established that mp3 players in races leads inevitable to Murder One. Let's move on, shall we? |
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posted: 1/25/2008 at 3:02 AM |
This month's Runners World had something about the Twin Cities Marathon, saying that officials "scanned finishers' photos--any runner in headphones was disqualified from the 2007 event and will be denied entry in 2008."
About the article where the girl died, I don't understand the police chief's position that "The road is designed for vehicle traffic not pedestrian traffic and that neighborhood does not have sidewalks." If there are no sidewalks, where else are pedestrians going to be. I always run with the attitude that I'm invisible. But I wouldn't necessarily count on a 15-year-old kid to have the same sense if I saw her running.
Drivers should be expected to watch out for people on foot, not the other way around. Cars are like guns in that they have legitimate killing power. Operating them should come with a great amount of responsibility. Harry Whittington aside, if you shoot somebody in the face, they shouldn't be the one to have to apologize. |
My 2008 goals:
Run 1,100 miles
Set PRs in all distances:
marathon: 4:22:00 (10:00 pace)
10 miles: 1:30:00 (9:00 pace)
x -- 10K: 52:42 (8:30 pace) -- 6/15/08: 48:56
5 miles: 42:30 (8:30 pace)
x -- 5K: 25:35 (8:15 pace) -- 2/9/08: 24:23
1 mile: 7:00
veggies on the run
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