RunningAHEAD - Topic: Racing on Consecutive Days

JakeKnight

posted: 10/3/2006 at 10:34 AM

So Wingz peer-pressured me into running all 3 of her virtual races. Tongue

And now I'm wondering how to achieve the best results, without injury. A 5-k-, a 5-mile, and a 10-k. Planning on doing one each, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. All run on a very nice new 400m track. That rubbery kinda surface, if you experts know that what that is. A 1.5 mile warmup and cool down (running to and from the the track). And I'm not going to do 100% effort; say 95%. But I'd like to put in a decent effort, ideally sub-23 5-k, sub-40 5-mile, sub-50 10k. Or so. What's the best order to do them in? 5-k first to save energy? 10-k first to save the shortest for last? Advice appreciated. Beer also appreciated.

E-mail: JakeKnight2002@aol.com
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jlynnbob

You'll ruin your knees!

posted: 10/3/2006 at 10:43 AM
modified: 10/3/2006 at 10:44 AM

You're not going to want to hear this... Sounds to me like you have stuffed and addressed the envelopes and only need to drop them in the mail... can you say invitation to injury??? Pick one...ONE and race it at 95%. That way, the order doesn't matter. Why do you want to do this? Are you targeting a sub-15 5k in 6 weeks or something (joke, OK?)? Your training pace is not compatible with back to back days at the pace you are targeting. OK, sorry to preach, but I'd hate to see you go down now. Off my box, Lynn B

""...the truth that someday, you will go for your last run. But not today—today you got to run." - Matt Crownover (after Western States)

Mile Collector

Abs of Flabs

posted: 10/3/2006 at 11:11 AM

I don't think the order matters as much as what you do right afterwards. The distances aren't long enough to drain you of your glycogen reserves, but you should definitely think about what you should eat/drink the 20 minutes after your runs to replenish them.

Beantown Runners | On the Bench

JakeKnight

posted: 10/3/2006 at 5:50 PM

Quote from jlynnbob on 10/3/2006 at 10:43 AM:

You're not going to want to hear this... Sounds to me like you have stuffed and addressed the envelopes and only need to drop them in the mail... can you say invitation to injury??? Pick one...ONE and race it at 95%. That way, the order doesn't matter. Why do you want to do this? Are you targeting a sub-15 5k in 6 weeks or something (joke, OK?)? Your training pace is not compatible with back to back days at the pace you are targeting. OK, sorry to preach, but I'd hate to see you go down now. Off my box, Lynn B

This from a guy planning on running 100 miles over mountaintops, half of it in the dark. What's my worst case scenario? I pull a hammy? Rupture an achilles? Meanwhile, what's yours? Falling of a mountain ... and dying? Being dragged off the trail by a mountain lion and being eaten? Croaking from hyponatremia? Lots of potential death on your horizon. Big grin

And you're preaching at me? But you're right. Good preaching, Reverend. I'll still run them, but I'll slow at least a couple of 'em down to marathon pace tempo runs or something. But for the record, I may chuckle at the irony if you get eaten by a mountain lion while falling off a cliff because you were stumbling around in a hyponatremic daze .... Tongue

Thanks for the advice guys!

E-mail: JakeKnight2002@aol.com
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Wingz

posted: 10/3/2006 at 6:05 PM

For the record: THIS IS NOT MY FAULT!!! Big grin

Roads were made for journeys...

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Fanatic #3965

posted: 10/3/2006 at 6:16 PM

*sits down with a big bowl of popcorn*

Kirsten

'07: 1324.5 | '08: 1561 | '09: 1810.9 run ~ 208.7 bike | '10: 1,000.3 run ~ 3513.5 bike | '11: 710.3 run ~ 4157.9 bike '12: 659.9 run ~ 3365.6 bike (100% benched by ortho last 4.5 weeks while in long-arm cast)

'13 Goals:

• DON'T BREAK ANYTHING!!!

• get within 5#s of 130#s (and stay there, gotdammit!)

• 1st olympic distance duathlon

• 1st Iceman Cometh mtn bike race

• Half Fanatic

• punch Type 1 in the junk

Wingz

posted: 10/3/2006 at 6:19 PM

Huh? Expecting a show, Zoomy? Seems like there's more action over under the 15 minute / mediocrity threads...

Roads were made for journeys...

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Fanatic #3965

posted: 10/3/2006 at 6:37 PM

Yeah, but you guys are more fun. Big grin

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Kirsten

'07: 1324.5 | '08: 1561 | '09: 1810.9 run ~ 208.7 bike | '10: 1,000.3 run ~ 3513.5 bike | '11: 710.3 run ~ 4157.9 bike '12: 659.9 run ~ 3365.6 bike (100% benched by ortho last 4.5 weeks while in long-arm cast)

'13 Goals:

• DON'T BREAK ANYTHING!!!

• get within 5#s of 130#s (and stay there, gotdammit!)

• 1st olympic distance duathlon

• 1st Iceman Cometh mtn bike race

• Half Fanatic

• punch Type 1 in the junk

Wingz

posted: 10/3/2006 at 6:55 PM

Well, let me have some of that popcorn, ok? Does it have butter on it? Tongue

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Roads were made for journeys...

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Fanatic #3965

posted: 10/3/2006 at 7:12 PM

You do like butter on popcorn, don't you? Please say you aren't one of those weirdos who likes just salt. Ick. Tongue

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Kirsten

'07: 1324.5 | '08: 1561 | '09: 1810.9 run ~ 208.7 bike | '10: 1,000.3 run ~ 3513.5 bike | '11: 710.3 run ~ 4157.9 bike '12: 659.9 run ~ 3365.6 bike (100% benched by ortho last 4.5 weeks while in long-arm cast)

'13 Goals:

• DON'T BREAK ANYTHING!!!

• get within 5#s of 130#s (and stay there, gotdammit!)

• 1st olympic distance duathlon

• 1st Iceman Cometh mtn bike race

• Half Fanatic

• punch Type 1 in the junk

Wingz

posted: 10/3/2006 at 7:38 PM

Wierdos, yes. Salt only, no. Tongue

Roads were made for journeys...

JakeKnight

posted: 10/3/2006 at 8:21 PM

Quote from Wingz on 10/3/2006 at 6:05 PM:

For the record: THIS IS NOT MY FAULT!!!

Maybe. But isn't it great that I have someone to blame if things go wrong? That's me. Always planning ahead. Clowning around

E-mail: JakeKnight2002@aol.com
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jlynnbob

You'll ruin your knees!

posted: 10/4/2006 at 3:59 PM

"Meanwhile, what's yours? Falling of a mountain ... and dying? Being dragged off the trail by a mountain lion and being eaten? Croaking from hyponatremia?" Yep, but I might miss all that fun if I overtrained running FAST for three consecutive days, oh, and you missed being bitten by a rattlenake, nests of hornets, rabid skunk attacks and much more! Touche Your humble servant, Lynn B

""...the truth that someday, you will go for your last run. But not today—today you got to run." - Matt Crownover (after Western States)

JakeKnight

posted: 10/4/2006 at 4:27 PM

Quote from jlynnbob on 10/4/2006 at 3:59 PM:

"Meanwhile, what's yours? Falling of a mountain ... and dying? Being dragged off the trail by a mountain lion and being eaten? Croaking from hyponatremia?" Yep, but I might miss all that fun if I overtrained running FAST for three consecutive days, oh, and you missed being bitten by a rattlenake, nests of hornets, rabid skunk attacks and much more!

Sure. But I didn't want to scare you. I also didn't mention going blind. As you probably already know, Dean Karnazes supposedly actually went BLIND the first time he ran the thing. Blind. Dude. That's just wrong. You won't even see the hornets, snakes, skunks, and mountain lions coming. Fortunately, you'll probably fall of a cliff before they get you. So that's cool. Cool

E-mail: JakeKnight2002@aol.com
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Wingz

posted: 10/4/2006 at 8:24 PM

You guys are making me think I need to put a waiver in with the registration... Confused

Roads were made for journeys...

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