Flu shot heresy (Read 1301 times)

posted: 2/1/2010 at 8:03 PM
Quote from PerfesserR on 1/16/2010 at 11:44 PM:
Australian anti-vaccination crackpot Meryl Dorey (kind of like the Aussie version of Jenny McCarthy, but not hot):

"I want to help Haiti, but I don't want the money going towards vaccines, so UNICEF and Red Cross are out."


 

Exposure he unvaccinated kids/relative to smallpox or polio and see what tune she sings.

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posted: 2/2/2010 at 3:47 AM
modified: 2/2/2010 at 3:59 AM

I won't be getting any flu vaccines anytime soon.  That might be be because when I was 18 I had what was described as encephalitis due to an autoimmune reaction to the flu and when I was 23 had what was described as meningitis due to an autoimmune reaction to the flu.  I don't remember a combined total of about 2 weeks of my life, but from what I've been told that might be a good thing because supposedly I don't enjoy spinal taps (although I do like the movie) and I had a whole bunch of them, all of which fortunately occurred during that don't remember anything time frame.

 

It's actually kind of interesting because I was conscious but had complete amnesia during each of the times I had this, but the second time I had it I remembered everything that was going on the first time and believed I was in Rhode Island Hospital with encephalitis, even though I was in Minneapolis with meningitis, and when they said I was getting a spinal tap I've been told I REALLY remembered what that was like.  Supposedly I got extremely violent in my attempts to prevent it and needed to be held down by a bunch of security people.  The second time I had it I don't remember anything from the time I tried to slide down the kids slide in the emergency room waiting room (they actually thought I was on drugs for some reason) and when I was asked what I thought the needle disposal container on the wall in my room was and I said that it must be where they threw away the used kitty litter (don't know where that one came from).  But I guess I had been talking to people all along, and that was when I just "woke up" and remember everything after that but nothing before.

 

Kind of interesting, but something I have no desire to repeat if I can avoid it.  The neurologist who treated me for the most recent case told me that he was a big proponent of flu vaccines, but in my case would recommend against them. 


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posted: 2/2/2010 at 4:00 AM
I'm not sure I understand.  You became severely ill as the result of infections with influenza on two occasions and so your neurologist has recommended against taking a vaccine that could prevent you from getting influenza in the future?  That does not make sense to me.  It seems you would want to do everything possible in your case to prevent future infections with influenza.
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posted: 2/2/2010 at 4:30 AM

As I understand it, the immune system reacts similarly to actually being infected by the flu as it does to being given the vaccine and that's why vaccines work.  Neither time did I actually get the flu.  I got the sniffles, fought it off, then a couple of days later was the first time carried to the emergency room unconscious throwing up and shitting myself, and the second time it was caught early, and I was only acting like someone who took the brown acid at Woodstock. 

 

My type of reaction is extremely rare.  Much more rare than dying of the flu.  I'm not saying that flu vaccines are bad.  If I didn't have my medical history then I would put my odds on that getting a flu vaccine is the safer choice, and if I had young children then I would probably take the risk and get a flu vaccine anyway to prevent myself from infecting them.  I think that anti-vaccine people are a bunch of crackpots, especially when it comes to things like smallpox and the like.  But there are a small number of instances where certain people are best off not getting vaccinated, and I have been told I'm one of them, by a doctor who said that he tells everyone they should get a flu shot, except for me.

posted: 2/8/2010 at 10:03 PM
modified: 2/8/2010 at 10:04 PM
Infamous cheerleader who claimed the vaccine harmed her now speaks with an Australian accent. Poor woman.


posted: 2/9/2010 at 4:30 AM
Los Angeles Times op-ed

"Childhood diseases once mostly eradicated are making a comeback. And children are dying."

Yep.
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