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What's the difference between training plans? (Read 261 times)

GinnyinPA


    Hudson, Pfitz, Daniels, Running Wizard, Higdon etc. all have training plans that have been used with success by a lot of runners. What's the main difference between them?  Why pick one over another?  What are the advantages/disadvantages?   I gather that Higdon is most recommended for beginners as there's little speed work and the mileage is really low, but what about the rest?


    Petco Run/Walk/Wag 5k

      Lets not forget Galloway run/walk training plans - he has a number of books containing plans for different levels of initial fitness. Beginning runners can benefit from not being afraid to walk.

      bob e v
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        Tomato, tomatoe. Whichever latest trend or book is hot. Comes down to finding/adapting to each individual, McMillan was the best for my last marathon PR. Jack Daniels for the shorter distances. But, its been years ago.

         

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          There are too many differences to list them all but here are a few.

          Length of long run. They vary from 16 to 26 miles big difference

          Speed-work  how fast? how far?

          Pace runs  medium distance at a speedy pace.  Lots of different names for these runs.


          Hungry

            Hudson, Pfitz, Daniels, Running Wizard, Higdon etc. all have training plans that have been used with success by a lot of runners. What's the main difference between them?  Why pick one over another?  What are the advantages/disadvantages?   I gather that Higdon is most recommended for beginners as there's little speed work and the mileage is really low, but what about the rest?

            I can chime in regarding Higdon and Running Wizard. I used a Higdon 18-week intermediate plan for a Fall marathon last year, and am currently in my 22nd week of a 24-week Running Wizard marathon plan. I think you can see some distinct differences between the two plans if you look at my daily mileage plot over the last year: Running Wizard vs Higdon

            For me, the Higdon plan had lower weekly mileage with fairly high mileage "spikes" on the weekends. There is a characteristic "3x20" series of runs (three 20-milers) near the end of the plan, followed by a taper. The Higdon plan seemed like a convenient plan for people who have a hard time fitting in runs of more than an hour during the week. If you look at the plot, my RW plan (starting in mid-January) has much higher weekly mileage, but it's more evenly spread out during the week, and the weekly long runs aren't nearly as high a percentage of the total weekly mileage as they are in the Higdon plan -- this distinction shows up pretty clearly in the plot. My longest scheduled "long run" was 17 miles in the RW plan, and that was back in week 10 of the plan. The RW plan progresses through a series of phases, each of which builds on the preceding phase.  I feel like I've really gained a lot of strength and a much better aerobic base using the RW plan. I'll have more data after my June 22 race to compare these two.

            I know very little about the other plans.


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              I wrote up a detailed comparison between Hansons and Pfitzinger a few months ago that people seemed to like.


              Consistently Slow

                I wrote up a detailed comparison between Hansons and Pfitzinger a few months ago that people seemed to like.

                 

                Good job! Thanks.

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                GinnyinPA


                  bhearn - thanks for the link.  That's a great discussion on the two.


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                    The `Hudson book is more about learning to design your own plan based on individual strengths and weaknesses. He does have some canned sample plans in the back that a lot of people use, but much of the book is focused on how to construct more tailored plans, and adapt them based on how you respond to the training, though he does suggest a framework for them.

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