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posted: 5/14/2008 at 9:03 PM |
| I have seen them on here...The calculators you put your time in for a mile or 5k and they tell you what your other times should be. I would like to use this in my training to make sure I get a good workout w/o over doing it. |
2008 GOALS
GET BELOW 175
RUN 6:00 MILE
RUN BELOW 25:30 5K
RUN BELOW 55:00 10K
RUN A MARATHON (DEC. 6TH - MEMPHIS - ST JUDE)
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posted: 5/14/2008 at 9:16 PM |
found it
nevermind |
2008 GOALS
GET BELOW 175
RUN 6:00 MILE
RUN BELOW 25:30 5K
RUN BELOW 55:00 10K
RUN A MARATHON (DEC. 6TH - MEMPHIS - ST JUDE)
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posted: 5/14/2008 at 9:41 PM
modified: 5/14/2008 at 9:41 PM |
Some good running calculators:
http://www.runbayou.com/jackd.htm
http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm
http://www.runworks.com/calculator.html
http://run-down.com/statistics/calc.php
Key thing to remember is that the predictions for equivalent performances becomes less accurate the farther apart the distances are (i.e. using a 5k to predict your marathon time). Also, the big caveat is that it is assumed that you can run the predicted times if you are fully and properly trained for that distance.
The tendency for most people is to run slower than predicted at longer races. This is because it requires much higher training volume to peak for a long race than a short race, and most of us don't often train enough to run well at long distances. |
Ancient History: 800m: 2:04 |1600m: 4:37 |3200m: 10:06 |5k: 16:23 |10k: 35:38 |15k: 54:20 |25k: 1:35:59
Modern Era: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00
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posted: 5/15/2008 at 1:41 PM |
Really using it for day-to-day training...If I run 3 miles at this time...how fast should I set pace for 5 miles...and so on.
It won't be my Running Bible just to help set some target paces. |
2008 GOALS
GET BELOW 175
RUN 6:00 MILE
RUN BELOW 25:30 5K
RUN BELOW 55:00 10K
RUN A MARATHON (DEC. 6TH - MEMPHIS - ST JUDE)
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posted: 5/15/2008 at 2:03 PM
modified: 5/15/2008 at 2:05 PM |
| Quote from BenBuck6 on 5/15/2008 at 1:41 PM: Really using it for day-to-day training...If I run 3 miles at this time...how fast should I set pace for 5 miles...and so on.
Your training pace really shouldn't vary based on the distance your running. If you have to slow your pace to go from 3 miles to 5 miles in training, your endurance might not be strong enough to tackle the 5 mile workout. (Or you might be running the 3 miler too fast.)
Also, remember that these equivalency calculators are primarily designed to equate racing paces (e.g., maximal effort), not training paces. I will point out that McMillan's calculator (which I swear by) does give guidance on training paces, but it is all premised on starting with a race time. If you don't have a race time to plug in, you won't be getting the best data from these calculators.
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| How To Run a Marathon: Step 1 - start running. There is no Step 2. |
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posted: 5/15/2008 at 3:11 PM |
| Quote from BenBuck6 on 5/15/2008 at 1:41 PM: Really using it for day-to-day training...If I run 3 miles at this time...how fast should I set pace for 5 miles...and so on.
It won't be my Running Bible just to help set some target paces.
The distance of your training runs shouldn't necessarily dictate the pace. A lot depends on the objective of the runs. For example, many runners, myself included, tend to push the long run a little harder than the others, especially during marathon training.
My runs are divided between key workouts and what I call "daily maintenance runs". The key workouts are done at a faster pace regardless of distance, while the maintenace runs are at a slow or easy pace. The maintenance runs are for recovery and...well... maintenace. They help you maintain the fitness you gained from your key workouts. The majority of total mileage is of the maintenance varitey...2/3 or more.
A related question was discussed on this thread with topic being how fast to do long runs:
http://www.runningahead.com/forums/topic/7706b72abc61474e8c02a9389f8c2c81
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Masters PR's:
40's - 5k 16:39; 10k 33:48, HM 1:15:27, Marathon 2:43:12
50's - couch potato
60's - 5k 19:02, 10k 38:35, HM 1:26:33, 30k 2:06:26 |
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posted: 5/19/2008 at 9:15 PM |
| When it comes to race prediction calculators, the distances shorter than the one I put in I can run faster than the predicted time but for the longer distances the times are way faster than anything I have ever done. What does this mean? Does this mean I need more endurance, or LT, or what? |
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posted: 5/19/2008 at 9:22 PM |
| Quote from Jake440 on 5/19/2008 at 9:15 PM: When it comes to race prediction calculators, the distances shorter than the one I put in I can run faster than the predicted time but for the longer distances the times are way faster than anything I have ever done. What does this mean? Does this mean I need more endurance, or LT, or what?
Same for me. It means either
A) you are better suited to running shorter races
2) you haven't run enough mileage to be sufficiently trained to run the longer race. There are lots of people out there who can run a 19:00 5k, but couldn't touch a 3:05 mararthon with a 10ft pole. Because even though the two are equivalent in terms of VO2max/VDOT, it takes a hell of a lot more training to run the latter.
D) a combination of the above.
Run lots more miles, and the longer races will come to you. |
Ancient History: 800m: 2:04 |1600m: 4:37 |3200m: 10:06 |5k: 16:23 |10k: 35:38 |15k: 54:20 |25k: 1:35:59
Modern Era: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00
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posted: 5/20/2008 at 1:15 AM |
| Try the calculator at runnersworld.com because it not only tells you your race paces at different distances, but also tells you what your training paces should be. |
"80% of success is showing up." ~ Woody Allen
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posted: 5/20/2008 at 4:59 AM |
| Quote from jeffdonahue on 5/20/2008 at 1:15 AM: Try the calculator at runnersworld.com because it not only tells you your race paces at different distances, but also tells you what your training paces should be.
So do these:
Quote from jEfFgObLuE on 5/14/2008 at 9:41 PM:
Borrowed from JeffGoBlue's post
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Masters PR's:
40's - 5k 16:39; 10k 33:48, HM 1:15:27, Marathon 2:43:12
50's - couch potato
60's - 5k 19:02, 10k 38:35, HM 1:26:33, 30k 2:06:26 |
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