Hansons vs. Pfitzinger (Read 2134 times)

    that would be nice if it were true.  many variables can throw off even the best training

     

    If I hit all the splits/paces/milage laid out in the Hanson's plan, I should be able to run my goal time, right?

    onemile


      Yeah that's the question that I want to know the answer to also.  I'm just about through week 6 of the Advanced plan and feeling pretty confident in my ability to hit the paces for all of the workouts for the rest of the plan, but much less confident in my ability to actually run that MP on race day.

       

      If I hit all the splits/paces/milage laid out in the Hanson's plan, I should be able to run my goal time, right?

        Onemile,

        That's my feeling exactly.  I have absolutely no doubt that I can hit every split throughout the however-many-week training (barring injury), but the longest I've ever run is 15 miles.  I think the longest run in the Hanson's method (advanced) is 16 miles and this isn't even at marathon pace.  According to the plan, my MP is 6:18 (2:45 marathon).  My long runs are at 6:52ish pace.  I'm only a few weeks in and I'm trusting in the whole cumulative fatigue idea.  My race is May 12th and I'll be sure to let everyone know how it goes.

         

        I understand that unforseen cramps, GI issues, weather, etc can all factor in.  I was speaking specifically to completed plan=goal race result.

          i'm  not familar with the Hansen plan. I'm curious if there are there any workouts that have you do a long run (16 to 20) and you try to run the last 6 ot 10 miles at current marathon pace?

           

          Personally, I think tha't a great race simulation and test, especially if you do that workout as part of a normal training week (i.e. don't rest for that workout), and the effort for that 6 to 10 miles is not too strenuous from a breathing standpoint.

          onemile


            There are three mid-week runs of 10 at MP not including a wu/cd of 3-6 miles (total). If you do the longer wu/cd, those will total 16 miles with 10 at MP.   (The training plan is in my log if you want to take a peek)

             

            How do you determine if it is "too strenuous" from a breathing standpoint?

             

            i'm  not familar with the Hansen plan. I'm curious if there are there any workouts that have you do a long run (16 to 20) and you try to run the last 6 ot 10 miles at current marathon pace?

             

            Personally, I think tha't a great race simulation and test, especially if you do that workout as part of a normal training week (i.e. don't rest for that workout), and the effort for that 6 to 10 miles is not too strenuous from a breathing standpoint.

               

               How do you determine if it is "too strenuous" from a breathing standpoint?

               

               

              I think you need to ask yourself if this is a pace/effort that would be sustainable for a full marathon. In the race the pace will be easer at the start since you'll be tapered, but by mile 16+ it starts to catch up to you. Ask yourself if you could hold that pace for the whole marathon.