Runner's Knee (Read 1305 times)

servingthealiens


    I has it. I've had it for the last 2 weeks. I've taken them "off", just walking instead of running. It's VERY slightly better, but I tried 15 minutes running tonight and now I'm living to regret it. In the past 2 weeks, I've tried all the recommended exercises, ice, ibuprofen, knee strap, everything you're "supposed" to do and gotten only about 20% improvement. How long does this take to resolve, and is there anything else I should be doing or not doing?

      Have you talked to a doctor?  If you aren't tackling the right problem, all of that stuff could be for naught at best, and counterproductive at worst.

        I've been dealing with the same issues myself.  Tried resting and some exercises I found online for a few weeks, but it didn't work.  I finally had to suck it up and go see someone, who identified some muscle imbalances and a small gait issue causing my kneecap to track incorrectly.  This was really helpful, because most of the exercises I found online weren't really targeting the area that was a problem for me.

         

        Summary: go see someone, like a doctor, a  chiropractor, or even a physical therapist.  The key is that they know how to deal with running injuries.

          It took me about 6 months if I recall correctly.

            It took me about 6 months if I recall correctly.

             

            Would that have been joggers knee?  Different beast entirely. 

            HeidiGSR


              Yeah there are a couple of conditions which get confused. There is either IT band syndrome which causes pain on the outer knee dur to friction of the IT band on the outer knee. Or there is Patellofemoral pain (aka anterior knee pain and sometimes chondromalacia patella). This is mal-tracking of the kneecap caused by muscle imbalances and problems such as overpronation.

                Took me 3 weeks to get over runners knee.  I did some very basic exercises, rest, no ice, no ibuprofen.

                maddog95835


                  This is my fifth month dealing with it and it's just minimally better.  Been doing some strength training for the quads and hammies and some x-bike classes and still running.  In fact, I've increased my mileage the last month and been PR'ing HM's and a 5K.  As long as I can still run and continue to improve, I'll just deal with it while trying to get it to improve.

                    I've had it before and just cut my mileage back (about half), iced like crazy and kept it elevated when sitting around. When I'm done showering after a run, I run only cold water, switch to the massage jets and run the water over and around my knees for a few minutses before getting out.

                    2012 Goals:

                    5k = sub 22:00

                    10k = sub 45:00

                    HM = sub 1:40:00

                    Run = 2000 miles

                    Bike = 3000 miles

                    Swim = 130 miles

                    jimmyb


                      Strengthen quads (i found wall sits helpful back in the early days when my knees hurt)

                       

                      Strengthen feet--strong feet is a must and will help prevent a lot of ills.

                       

                      Try introducing to your training a flat, flexible running shoe with as little cushioning as possible. When I switched to this type of shoe four years ago, I found that I impacted the ground much softer. Not only will they lessen impact, they will also help your feet get stronger, and let your feet move more naturally, with its natural pronation. I never wear shoes that splint my feet (shoes with any kind of motion control, plastic crap on the arch, or "technology"), whether just walking around or running.  Good luck!

                      maddog95835


                        Strengthen quads (i found wall sits helpful back in the early days when my knees hurt)

                         

                        Strengthen feet--strong feet is a must and will help prevent a lot of ills.

                         

                        Try introducing to your training a flat, flexible running shoe with as little cushioning as possible. When I switched to this type of shoe four years ago, I found that I impacted the ground much softer. Not only will they lessen impact, they will also help your feet get stronger, and let your feet move more naturally, with its natural pronation. I never wear shoes that splint my feet (shoes with any kind of motion control, plastic crap on the arch, or "technology"), whether just walking around or running.  Good luck!

                         

                        What type of shoe are you running in?  I have a pair of the RevLite New Balance laying around that I plan on trying out this weekend.  Definitely less cushioning in that then I'm use to.  Should be interesting.


                        ultramarathon/triathlete

                          I think I've recently had Patellofemoral pain and I've found a great deal of relief though a LOT of stretching (long stretches before any run) and ice and rest.

                           

                          Maybe try rolling out the rest of the leg muscles on a foam roller... might help if it's related to tightened muscles or tendons.   Seems to help a lot for me.

                           

                          Good luck! 

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                          jimmyb


                            What type of shoe are you running in?  I have a pair of the RevLite New Balance laying around that I plan on trying out this weekend.  Definitely less cushioning in that then I'm use to.  Should be interesting.

                             

                            I use Nike Free 3.0 without the inserts.

                            I'm not sure what the Revlite is, but the idea is to have no plastic crap or arch support on the bottom of the shoe, and to have the heel as flat as possible. You should be able to twist the soul of the shoe almost in a ball and like a Twizzler. Not too long ago I put on a pair of my old trainers and felt like I was in high heels. Hard to believe I use to run like that all the time. No wonder I ran into problems.I also did a TM test with my old cushy trainers vs. my Nike Free. When I ran in the trainers it was "BOOM, BOOM< BOOM< BOOM"--no matter what I did I just kept hitting the deck hard. When I put my Nike Frees back on, I was hitting the deck very easy with just a minimal sound.

                             

                            The idea is to introduce these shoes slowly. You'll be using muscles in your feet that have been splinted for awhile and also the leg muscles a bit differently--so you want to treat them like newbies when trying the shoes. A little bit more each week.

                             

                            Some people have gone all the way and run barefoot or with the Vibram Five Fingers foot glove.

                             

                            Many report their PF, knee, achilles,  and lower back problems finally healing up after going to a flat, flexible shoe or the barefoot and Vibrams. Some have reported problems, but that could be due to the too much too soon syndrome, and not switching over slowly enough. You should still be working on form as well.

                             

                            Foot strengthening exercises are a good idea--again go slowly.

                             

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