I know the 405 has gotten some bad reviews, but in case anyone is interested Amazon has it on sale today for $149.99

http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27

I got the Garmin 405 in April, 2010 without the heart rate monitor. I once had a stop watch with the heart rate option. I never liked it much.

Cost about $300. Not enough value for that price. Spending $150 is a lot closer to the my value range.

Seems like the battery does not hold a charge as advertised. Recharge it after every run, even if it says you have 90% charge.

Two or three times it would not charge correctly. It would show 100% charge when on the charger, then show 0% immediately after I took it off. My fix was to totally reset it, erasing all running data on the watch. Erasing the data is OK since I upload each run to RA. Almost never upload data to the garmin site.

Be sure to lock the bezel before running. Sweat on the bezel seems to confuse it.

Still have to deal with that ANT/stick thing - but I guess that is still the only game in town.

I decided to go ahead and get one. Poor impulse control. I'm getting tired of using my iPhone and was thinking of getting a Garmin anyway.

How do you found the "todays run"? Set the schedule in training center. The" todays run" popped up yesterday while looking for something else. Could not get back to it.

tap the bezel twice. once takes you to the battery level and again takes you to today's workout. also battery on the 405 has been bad for me, had to rma for a new one, but i hear the new 2.8 update is supposed to solve the battery problems, sadly i can't seem to get it to upgrade without error....

 Thanks. I try it this morning and it did not work. Now it did. Maybe it is just slow in processing. We give it another short in the AM.