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Good running reads (Read 1149 times)

     

    Is it a long post? Wink

     

    Oh, shut up!! ;o)


    "Race Across The Sky"

       

      AKTrail:

       

      This is VERY interesting...  Where can I get more story about this marathon?  Like the first winner, time, where she is now, etc.  I'm sure Kathrine Switzer would be very interested and I'll let her know.

       

      Nobby - check this out: http://www.equinoxmarathon.org/000_static/03-statistics/pdfs/PodiumFinishers-AllTime-Women.pdf Of course.... neither Switzer nor Gail Bakken are really the first women to run a marathon. Violet Piercy of Great Britain was the first woman to be officially timed in the Marathon, posting a time of 3:40:22 in a British race on Oct. 3, 1926. Due largely to the lack of women's competition, that time stood as an unofficial world record for 37 years. But even before her there was Stamata Revithi, who completed a marathon in the 1896 Olympic Games, however her attempt was unofficial because officially she was not allowed to enter. MTA: Sorry for lack of formatting and html hyperlink thingy - think it's my browser.
      What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles; Miles of Trials


      "Race Across The Sky"

         

        Oh, shut up!! ;o)

         

        Ladies and Gentlemen. May I introduce... the shortest Nobby post in history.
        What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles; Miles of Trials


        I look my best blurry!

           

          Ladies and Gentlemen. May I introduce... the shortest Nobby post in history.

           Don't encourage him!  Nobby could you please elabortate?  I'm not sure I completely understand you comment.  

           

          I also would like to add that regardless when the first marathon was ever run by a woman, Kathrine Switzer and Lorraine Moller are women's marathoning legends.  Lorraine's book is definitely a great read!  Wouldn't you agree, Nobby?

          DanMoriarity


            Hey Dan

             

            Just signed up to your site. When it becomes the most visited site in the world I want you to remember that I was member No 2 !!!!!

             

            best of luck with it and I'm looking forward to checking ot out in the next few days...

             

            Red

             

            Thanks, Red. I hope you like it. I'm always open to suggestions if there is something else you like to see added to the site.

             

            And technically you're number one, I don't really count since I'm the owner of the site.  Smile

            eymarunner


              If you are looking for running books, Once a Runner by Parker is a good compelling exciting story, although its horribly written. Parker can't write dialogue, so he just doesn't. There are countless scenes that play out like this:

               

              Quentin: "Bruce, there's something important I need to tell you. I . . . I . . ."
              Bruce: "Its okay Quentin. Don't say it. I know."

               

              If you can get past those types of exchanges, the book is good. The last few chapters are great, especially when Quentin walks around the track the night before the big race. It gives great insight into the mind of an elite runner.

               

              Other good books -- The Inner Game of Tennis. Although its about tennis, there is a lot of good stuff there about the mental side of any endeavor. Skip chapter five, since it is specific to the backhand. 

               

              Anyway, I see in your original post you were looking for websites, but I hope these books are helpful too.  

                Nobby wrote: This is VERY interesting...; Where can I get more story about this marathon?; Like the first winner, time, where she is now, etc.  I'm sure Kathrine Switzer would be very interested and I'll let her know.
                Purdey already posted one of the pages. All time records and statistics are here: http://www.equinoxmarathon.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=31
                Before you laugh at the early finish times, take a look at the profile and map: http://tinyurl.com/yz3zpwj As you might expect in Alaska, it is a 3-dimensional race with about 3500ft of up.Wink
                Here's some pics of the course in 2002 when I watched part of it (yea, from the top of the big hill). I haven't done it, but am signed up for 50k in 1.5 wks (just added last year). http://tinyurl.com/39xbqxt
                BTW, it does not appear to be currently certified, and not sure if it ever was, but their mile post markers in many places are up year round - like highway signs. It's mostly trail, but has maybe 6mi of asphalt in there. My suspicion is that it's close, maybe just lacking paperwork or maybe not eligible because it's mostly trail. It's a big thing in Fairbanks and being able to maintain the legal access to the trail is a concern.
                AFAIK, no women have broken 3 hrs, and that includes one woman who was on US 100k team at the time of her wins.
                Some interesting history: http://tinyurl.com/325dd46 Apparently Gail Bakken was also was of the main contributors to the race.
                Googling around, it looks like Gail Bakken-Johnson may still live in Anchorage and is 69. Don't see any race results since mid 90s, which included some Pikes Peak. I can probably find out more for you, if you're interested, but I think if you look around at the smaller marathons, you may find other examples. Or maybe not.
                For perspective, Alaska became a state on Jan 3, 1959. This race started 1963.
                Sorry about the spacing, but editor doesn't seem to want to accept hard returns or anything except continuous text - although I just found a way to put lines between paragraphs.
                "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog

                   

                   

                  Thanks for the shout out! 

                   

                  Just updated it, and RA guru Nobby-san figures in the most recent post.

                   

                  Jeff - just want to say that I really enjoy reading your thought provoking blog. For some reason though, I can't post a comment because the "word verfication" block doesn't work. I've tried it many times. This will sound silly, but I sometimes see myself in what you write.  Since I'm not as articulate as you, it's great to see it expanded on like you do.  I often share the link with others. Thanks for posting it.

                  The Pace Bunny is my Sole Mate.

                     

                    Purdey wrote: Nobby - check this out: http://www.equinoxmarathon.org/000_static/03-statistics/pdfs/PodiumFinishers-AllTime-Women.pdf Of course.... neither Switzer nor Gail Bakken are really the first women to run a marathon.
                    Purdey wrote: Violet Piercy of Great Britain was the first woman to be officially timed in the Marathon, posting a time of 3:40:22 in a British race on Oct. 3, 1926. Due largely to the lack of women's competition, that time stood as an unofficial world record for 37 years. But even before her there was Stamata Revithi, who completed a marathon in the 1896 Olympic Games, however her attempt was unofficial because officially she was not allowed to enter.
                    Good points. And the marathon distance didn't really become established until when - 1921?. That's a problem with a lot of these first to, or toughest, or whatevers. Breaking through the paperwork barriers to do something "official" like in Olympics and Boston is definitely significant. (growing up pre-Title IX, I definitely appreciate the significance of this) But sometimes people are quietly doing the distance unofficially.
                    Purdey wrote: MTA: Sorry for lack of formatting and html hyperlink thingy - think it's my browser.
                    Yours and mine both. Your paragraphing shows up when I go to comment on it, but not when just reading it.
                    "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog
                      I got curious about when women started running marathons or longer.

                       

                      Here's a list of the oldest marathons in US:

                      http://www.joehenderson.com/email/389.html

                       

                      Some didn't have much history that I could follow. Others have a bunch. Pike's Peak and Equinox are two of the better documented races.

                       

                      Pike's Peak started in 1956, but I didn't see any women finishers until 1980 in their results.

                       

                      Corrected: First female finisher of PP marathon in 1956 and a number occurred in the 1970s. Not sure why they don't appear in their course record history.

                      Western Hemisphere was established in 1948. "It welcomed women in the early 1960s."

                      http://www.joehenderson.com/archive/407.html

                      which is supported by results from 1963, although no other women until 1970.

                      http://www.arrs.net/HP_WHmMa.htm l

                      Although this active.com article

                      http://tinyurl.com/25wbsdj

                      provides a little more history, but seems off in some details (or used lots of qualifiers to make it true).

                       

                      Here's some history of the Olympic Marathon, referencing some of Purdey's comments:

                      http://www.marathonguide.com/history/olympicmarathons/chapter25.cfm

                       

                      JFK50 started in 1963, but I didn't see any women in their results until 1968. The initial races might have been military oriented in response to JFK's 50-mile challenge. But it's not clear whether women just didn't compete yet or whether they were not allowed.

                      "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog


                      bigkenny

                        Google Dr. George Sheehan. There is a website devoted to him. He wrote for Runners World for many years and many consider him one of the best running writer / philosopher ever.

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                          Pike's Peak started in 1956, but I didn't see any women finishers until 1980 in their results.

                           

                           

                           

                          Arlene Pieper finished the marathon in 1959, but a woman didn't do the race again until 1971. 

                          “Once in a while you find yourself in an odd situation. You get into it by degrees and in the most natural way but, when you are right in the midst of it, you are suddenly astonished and ask yourself how in the world it all came about.”

                          —Thor Heyerdahl, Kon-Tiki

                           

                            Jeff - just want to say that I really enjoy reading your thought provoking blog. For some reason though, I can't post a comment because the "word verfication" block doesn't work. I've tried it many times. This will sound silly, but I sometimes see myself in what you write.  Since I'm not as articulate as you, it's great to see it expanded on like you do.  I often share the link with others. Thanks for posting it.

                             

                             

                             

                            Smile

                             

                            Strange about the word verification block; I don't know much about this, but I will see if I can fix it. Can you describe the problem in more detail?

                             

                            MTA: Okay, I got rid of the little word verification do-hickey. If I'm inundated with spam, then I'll put it back up. 

                            In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka

                            The Logic of Long Distance

                              Google Dr. George Sheehan. There is a website devoted to him. He wrote for Runners World for many years and many consider him one of the best running writer / philosopher ever.

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                              I think I have all his books on my shelf - discovered him when I started running and loved reading his stuff.

                              Check him out.

                              The Pace Bunny is my Sole Mate.

                              Pammie


                                What about Ernst Van Aaken German coach in Post war Germany. (Or West Germany as it was then) Didn't he believe women were well suited to the long distance events like the marathon And didn't he put on a few races to prove his point

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