2011 Goal of Sub-3:00 Marathon (Read 8006 times)

    I didn't have the courage to post in here before, but I ran MCM this past weekend, and wish I would have spoke up earlier.  I went out on my third try at sub-three and, just like this year at  Boston, by mile 5 the pace felt high and unsustainable.  I was going to pull back, and one a whim decided "screw it, I'm running this pace until I burn up, I'm fine with DNF"  I kept waiting for the wheels to come off......only they never did.  The miles kept ticking by and it never got hard, I sprinted the last 50 yards to finish in 2:57:15, a pr by about 3:30, and felt better than I ever have finishing a marathon.  I was fatigued, but clear headed, and nothing was painful or sore.  Twenty minutes after finishing I jogged across the street without even thinking about it.  Today, two days later, nothing is sore....I feel completely normal.  I'm not sure what happened but it was awesome!

    Whatever my lot, thou hast taught me to say, It is well, it is well with my soul.

    mikeymike


      I'm not sure what happened but it was awesome!

       

      THIS happend.

       

      Congrats.

      Runners run

      dpschumacher


      3 months til Masters

        2023 Goals

        Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

        10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

        5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

        Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

        Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

         

        2024 Goals

        Sub 2:37 Marathon

        Sub 1:15 Half

        Sub 34 10k

        Sub 16 5k

         

         

          I didn't have the courage to post in here before, but I ran MCM this past weekend, and wish I would have spoke up earlier.  I went out on my third try at sub-three and, just like this year at  Boston, by mile 5 the pace felt high and unsustainable.  I was going to pull back, and one a whim decided "screw it, I'm running this pace until I burn up, I'm fine with DNF"  I kept waiting for the wheels to come off......only they never did.  The miles kept ticking by and it never got hard, I sprinted the last 50 yards to finish in 2:57:15, a pr by about 3:30, and felt better than I ever have finishing a marathon.  I was fatigued, but clear headed, and nothing was painful or sore.  Twenty minutes after finishing I jogged across the street without even thinking about it.  Today, two days later, nothing is sore....I feel completely normal.  I'm not sure what happened but it was awesome!

           

          Awesome, congrats

            THIS happend.

             

            Congrats.

             

            So the secret formula has now been released to the running world, an extra large helping of consistency.  That is a huge, and hugely awesome run and PR.

             

            Congrats!!!!!!!!!

            E.J.
            Greater Lowell Road Runners
            Cry havoc and let slip the dawgs of war!

            May the road rise to meet you, may the wind be always at your back, may the sun shine warm upon your SPF30, may the rains fall soft upon your sweat-wicking hat, and until you hit the finish line may The Flying Spaghetti Monster hold you in the hollow of His Noodly Appendage.

              Congrats DG! You trained and raced well!!

              kcam


                Great run, DG.  Congratulations.

                  Congrats!

                  Schmize


                    I didn't have the courage to post in here before, but I ran MCM this past weekend, and wish I would have spoke up earlier.  I went out on my third try at sub-three and, just like this year at  Boston, by mile 5 the pace felt high and unsustainable.  I was going to pull back, and one a whim decided "screw it, I'm running this pace until I burn up, I'm fine with DNF"  I kept waiting for the wheels to come off......only they never did.  The miles kept ticking by and it never got hard, I sprinted the last 50 yards to finish in 2:57:15, a pr by about 3:30, and felt better than I ever have finishing a marathon.  I was fatigued, but clear headed, and nothing was painful or sore.  Twenty minutes after finishing I jogged across the street without even thinking about it.  Today, two days later, nothing is sore....I feel completely normal.  I'm not sure what happened but it was awesome!

                     

                    You didn't have the courage to post here, but you had the courage to keep pushing during the race.   And that is all that counts!  Congratulations on the breakthrough and the PR!  What was your pace through 5 miles?  And what was the trigger in the mind to keep on that pace, instead of backing off?  Obviously, as others have pointed out, you were prepared physically.  How did you get your mind in the right spot?

                    DoppleBock


                      Maybe what pace feels high and unsustainable has just been modified ???   

                       

                      I didn't have the courage to post in here before, but I ran MCM this past weekend, and wish I would have spoke up earlier.  I went out on my third try at sub-three and, just like this year at  Boston, by mile 5 the pace felt high and unsustainable.  I was going to pull back, and one a whim decided "screw it, I'm running this pace until I burn up, I'm fine with DNF" 

                      Long dead ... But my stench lingers !

                       

                       

                        Thanks everyone for all the congrats etc!

                         

                        What was your pace through 5 miles?  And what was the trigger in the mind to keep on that pace, instead of backing off?  Obviously, as others have pointed out, you were prepared physically.  How did you get your mind in the right spot?

                         I was remarkably even across the whole race.  The first 5k was the slowest of the whole race, but only by a few seconds.  My second half was only 32 seconds slower than the first half.  Part of that was because around mile 24 I realized I was going to sub-3 easily and I pulled back a little just to play it a bit safe.  As far as getting to the right mental spot.....I really thought I was going to DNF and I was cool with that.  I have never done it, but it sounds somewhat honorable to me to be willing to run to the point where your body fails.

                         

                        DOPPLE BOCK...you are probably right.  Over the last couple months I have been considering that I am likely a bit of a mental wimp.  Easy pace on training runs never feels truly easy.  Tempo efforts coming up the next day make me feel a bit anxious.  I have a pit in my stomach before a 5k knowing what is coming.  Everyone says the first 10 of a marathon should feel easy and light....it is not, I am working.  All that said, race results say I am running the correct paces......my brain perception of effort is just wimpy I guess.

                        Whatever my lot, thou hast taught me to say, It is well, it is well with my soul.

                        DoppleBock


                          Not wimpy - Its just a matter of brain re-adjustment

                           

                          There are actually many reasons that this could have happened in a marathon - Often when we taper to a marathon our legs lose a fair amount of tension and we feel flat ... meaning the pace seems hard.  I think this is actually better in the marathon distance that feeling sharp and bouncy - Then I tend to run too fast early on.

                           

                          I always look forward to running speed work ... until I am going out for the speed work run, then often I dred it in the warmup miles until I actually start the speed work.  The 1st miles or rep of interval work the apprehension is still there.  When I am done - I feel really satisfied and it usually has went well.

                           

                          Congrats.

                          Long dead ... But my stench lingers !

                           

                           

                            Congrats, DG! Looking forward to your log entry to read a little more detail...

                             

                            Thanks for the walk down memory lane. MCM '08 was my first sub-3. I can imagine you running around the D.C. landmarks and passing many runners in that second half. 

                             

                            Pretty sweet to place in the 100s in a race with 20,000 finishers. Lots of room to run for a runner at your pace.

                              Official time of 2:47:30 at Two Cities Marathon.  About five minutes slower than I wanted, but it's not surprising based on my training.  I'm likely going to have to take some time off to fully heal my left Achilles which made me miss a bunch of runs during this whole training period.  I would have liked to at least PR, (<2:44:51) but I'm happy I didn't completely blow up and have to walk it.  Maybe next year.

                               

                              How did all the NYC runners do?

                              DoppleBock


                                Not a bad consolation prize - Nice effort 

                                 

                                Official time of 2:47:31 at Two Cities Marathon.  About five minutes slower than I wanted, but it's not surprising based on my training.  I'm likely going to have to take some time off to fully heal my left Achilles which made me miss a bunch of runs during this whole training period.  I would have liked to at least PR, (<2:44:51) but I'm happy I didn't completely blow up and have to walk it.  Maybe next year.

                                 

                                How did all the NYC runners do?

                                Long dead ... But my stench lingers !