surgery & loss of fitness? (Read 617 times)


tomatolover

    In April, i'm planning to have a scar revision surgery on my chin to remove the hypertrophic ugliness that resulted from a bad fall whillst running last spring....While at the plastic surgeon's office, I was told that I have to refrain from doing anything strenuous/fitness related for at least 3 weeks so that the new scar will heal properly (blood pressure busts seams?)...


    .My question is, how much fitness will I be losing to my chin for those 3 weeks?  I can't believe that not running is actually figuring into my hesitation about this surgery, as i'm self-conscious as shit about my face since my spill but I'm running more now than ever and I'm afraid of losing what I've built up.  I'm thinking it's possible for me to walk during the time, but also assuming that any cardio activity is out of the question.

      I just recently had a surgery to repair my eardrum after it ruptured from snorkeling. I wasn't supposed to run for the next two weeks. In my case, the physical impacts from running could have damaged the repair, and heavier breathing could cause built up air pressure and damage it also. The first few days I wanted to run, but really didn't feel like I should (it felt like there was a marble in my ear). I went for a few walks, and rode on a stationary bike with less resistence then normal so that my breathing wouldn't get heavy, but I could still go for at least 30 minutes at a time. I took another week to get back into running, and the fourth week I was back to my normal mileage. For me, it was mostly just a delay, not really a setback. I could imagine that in your case, the impacts with each stride might be a concern, and sweating. Definitely ask the doctor if long easy bike rides would be okay. Like I said, you may not even feel like running the first few days (even though you'll want to).

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         I think in 3 weeks, you probably won't lose too much in cardiovascular fitness, but you may be a little stiff/sore for a few days after you start back. I tend to lose strength/flexibilty faster than cardio fitness during a lay off. If you can to some walking, that will probably offset that a bit.

        I would guess, seeing as you seem to be getting a good 20-25 MPW, if you come back sensibly, maybe run a little slower the first week, maybe keep it on the low side of your MPW, you' d be back to normal in 2-3 weeks, maybe less. This has been the case for me, but I'm 51, if you're much younger, you may notice even less of an effect. Good luck with your surgery.

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          I agree with Craig that there will be little-to-zero loss of cardiovascular fitness, especially with only three weeks or so of rest.  This may actually be a good little period for your muscles to really catch up and reap the benefits of all your training. 

           

          Let's plan to meet up at another local race to celebrate your recovery. 

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            if you cannot do cardio then in all likelyhood it will take you 2 months to get back to where you were. 

             

            that may sound bad but it isn't that big of a deal.  having gotten to where you are now still provides much benefit for getting back there the next time.  Even though the same workouts will be more difficult (sorry... they probably will) you will likely build back more easily next time. 

             

            so even though this may sound like a downer post I'm really trying to emphsise the positive. 

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            Prince of Fatness

              My question is, how much fitness will I be losing to my chin for those 3 weeks?

               

              I don't think that it matters much because you don't really use your chin when you run.  Heh.

               

              Seriously, you'll lose some fitness, but I don't think it will be that bad.  A few years ago I had to take 6 weeks off.  I was back up to speed in a little over a month.  Just don't go nuts and try to recover all of that fitness in that first week.

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                In April, i'm planning to have a scar revision surgery on my chin to remove the hypertrophic ugliness that resulted from a bad fall whillst running last spring....While at the plastic surgeon's office, I was told that I have to refrain from doing anything strenuous/fitness related for at least 3 weeks so that the new scar will heal properly (blood pressure busts seams?)...


                .My question is, how much fitness will I be losing to my chin for those 3 weeks?  I can't believe that not running is actually figuring into my hesitation about this surgery, as i'm self-conscious as shit about my face since my spill but I'm running more now than ever and I'm afraid of losing what I've built up.  I'm thinking it's possible for me to walk during the time, but also assuming that any cardio activity is out of the question.

                 You'll lose  fitness... but three weeks isn't that bad.  I had to take 5.5 weeks off after my c-section and got it back pretty quickly (a couple months) once recommitted.  The process of getting it back (esp the first few runs) suck, but in the long run it doesn't matter and will probably leave you more jazzed for running and committed to training which can be extremely beneficial. 

                I'd ask the doctor the strictness of the times.  I know for me, I convinced the doctor to clear me earlier than the originally given time (8 weeks) because it healed well.  They have to be cautious... that doesn't mean you will need 3 weeks yourself. Esp, I'm not sure about your blood pressure but I know mine is pretty low even during/immediately after exercise, compared to the norm, so if that's the problem maybe individual factors come even more into play.

                 

                I'm scared now though, I'm supposed to look at scar revision here soon, too.  The recovery time has always been the real fault I found with plastic surgery!

                  I always heard that chicks dig scars?

                   

                  Just get it done and don't worry about how much fitness you will lose.  You have forever to get it back.

                    The hard part of conditioning in my opion is strengthing the bones/ligaments/joints.   Cardiovascular fitness is MUCH easier to gain.  You should loose almost none of the first (particularly if you can walk a lot in the mean time).   You might loose a fair amount of cardiovascular fitness but you can regain that really quickly.


                    tomatolover

                       

                      Let's plan to meet up at another local race to celebrate your recovery. 

                        Yes to that!  my chin should be in fighting shape by early May--my body, maybe not so much, but i'll give it a shot.

                      BTW: I'm now a paid member of the NJMasters (finally)...i'm hoping to do a coached track workout/longrun with them before the procedure.

                        I don't know how reliable people have found it, but Daniels Running Formula has a few pages on how much fitness you lose when you take breaks and how you should adjust your training intensities when you start running again.  It might be worth checking out if you're really concerned about it.

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                        5K: nothing to see here

                        10K: coming soon

                        10M: please stand by
                        Half Mar.: in development

                        Mar.: under construction

                          I have taken off 4-5 wks two different times over the last 2 years because of hammy issues but did do other CV work. I measured my losses by pace/effort and HR will running. There was a difference. You will lose fitness but you will have your legs back within 10 days just that your HR will be a bit higher with same effort.  It will take you 4-6 wks to regain your full fitness back.
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                            The hard part of conditioning in my opion is strengthing the bones/ligaments/joints.   Cardiovascular fitness is MUCH easier to gain.  You should loose almost none of the first (particularly if you can walk a lot in the mean time).   You might loose a fair amount of cardiovascular fitness but you can regain that really quickly.

                             

                            My experience has been that this is right on the money.  Even with limited mobility, gaining the cardio back happens much quicker than recovering the muscle conditioning.  Crank a treadmill to incline 10 - 15 and walk it and your heart rate will be pushed.  But the recover in strength and conditioning takes a long time.

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                                Yes to that!  my chin should be in fighting shape by early May--my body, maybe not so much, but i'll give it a shot.

                              BTW: I'm now a paid member of the NJMasters (finally)...i'm hoping to do a coached track workout/longrun with them before the procedure.

                              I have been meaning to join (a guy at my gym is a member and said that many of the members are not masters-level).

                               

                              By the way, I am guessing this is a very minor surgery (?).  I seriously did not notice the scar, fyi. 

                               

                              If we don’t try we’ll never know. At least I can find out how good I can be.  I can have an answer at the end of the days, and have a hell of a good time with the process. -Desi Davila