Forums >Off the Beaten Path>Lance Armstrong appears finally to have run out of rope.
Lance is going to be bleeding money. Here come more lawyer bills too. He's been asked to repay almost $4M in TdF prize money. I listened to a bit of a discussion on the news today; they expect more people will be going after him too.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/lance-asked-return-4m-tour-de-france-prize-money-article-1.1193242
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I am keeping my eyes out for the UK paper he sued for libel. If pressed, the UK could put him in prison for their equivalent to the charge of lying under oath.
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Just glad to see the truth come out. To many cheating athletes in the world. How do they sleep ?
I saw the footage on CNN last night covering the interview of Armstrong back in, I think, 2005. Maybe this was an interview that came about due to be subpoened? Don't know. And maybe this point has been already made here (there's been a lot of posts), but the thing that is really unbelievable to me is his utter convincibility- if you watch his responses, he looks like he is absolutely telling the truth about not doping. Everything- his facial expressions, his body language, his statements and how they are worded, his own statement about how he knew he would "lose everything" if he were ever caught- everything - points to a guy who is either a masterful, masterful liar, or someone who is incomprehensibly unaware, or someone who completely believes his own words. It is kind of spooky, actually.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=713295n
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I chanced on that CNN show as well. It was really interesting and gave me new perspectives on the whole story. I am of the belief that absolute power may corrupt absolutely, and by that time Lance surely thought he was invincible. Plus, for some, if you tell a lie long enough (and especially can get enough people to buy in) than it becomes the truth. Both of those might fit for him.
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This is my suspicion, as well. I suspect he'd be a really fascinating psychological subject.
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For many years, LA has been described as exhibiting behaviors consistent with a sociopathic personality. Not the serial killer movie kind; the clinical kind.
This is an aspect of that. Setting aside the cheating (or lack thereof, if you are still on that side), the way he has acted through that seems consistent with the term.
But not only am I sitting in an armchair, I do not possess proper credentials to state this. Except on the internet. 'cause I read it. Also he was kind of a dick to me, twice, so there's that. Nanny nanny boo boo
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For many years, LA has been described as exhibiting behaviors consistent with a sociopathic personality. Not the serial killer movie kind; the clinical kind. This is an aspect of that. Setting aside the cheating (or lack thereof, if you are still on that side), the way he has acted through that seems consistent with the term. But not only am I sitting in an armchair, I do not possess proper credentials to state this. Except on the internet. 'cause I read it. Also he was kind of a dick to me, twice, so there's that. Nanny nanny boo boo
Have you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express? Because if you have, I believe the commercials state that you are, indeed, in possession of the proper credentials. It must be true if it is said in a commercial, right?
My understanding is that he can't come clean because of contractual provisions that let him keep money if he has not tested positive or admitted to doping. So far he is OK under those terms.
Looks like they are going after him for "no longer being the winner of any Tour," not for being a jackass doper.
SCA Promotions demands that Armstrong return $12 million in bonus earnings
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Looks like they are going after him for "no longer being the winner of any Tour," not for being a jackass doper. SCA Promotions demands that Armstrong return $12 million in bonus earnings
Legally the bonuses were paid for winning....he is no longer a winner...avoids dredging into the whole doping thing at all during the course of the proceedings, methinks.
Of course, he is not a winner because he was a jackass doper. But that is beside the point in this case. Convenient for the insurer. Good for them, I enjoy the irony here...LA will owe them like 3X what he was paid originally (they paid him almost 2X IIRC with interest and court costs).
But this is likely chump change compared to what he would owe former sponsors if...as HStreet has suggested....admitting doping triggers contract breech and liability to repay sponsors.
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