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Back Problems...update (Read 800 times)

NolaGal1


    I started running a couple of months ago and have been doing really well.  Okay, I am really, REALLY slow but I'm 46 and let's say a bit overweight.  Otherwise I'm in good health. 

     

    Last fall, I pulled my back.  I missed several days of work, spent more than a week on a cane, weeks working with a chiropractor and doing rehab.  Well, the other day, I bent over to pick something up and felt a twinge.  It was quick and pain gone.  I went out later that night and ran 3 miles feeling really good. 

     

    I woke up the next morning and the back was 'out'.  Luckily, I'm on vacation this week so I'm resting it and doing the ice thing.  It's better today but not completely.  It's tight and sore but I'm not getting the incredible spasms I got last year.

     

    Does anyone have any thoughts on when I can safely run again?  I don't think running had anything to do with causing it but it sure did seem to aggravate it.  My thought is that when I do start up again, I should probably ice it even if it seems fine (as it did couple days ago).

      Do the rehab you did with the chiropractor. My goes out quarterly for the last 4 or 5 years. Good luck.

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        I have a lot of back issues and have to be really careful.  Last year I was sent to a PT who gave me exercises to do every other day.  If I miss a few days I start to have issues.  Luckily my back feels best running as it loosens things up and when I gets home always cracks.

         

        Maybe you should see a PT to see what exercises might help you?  You can probably get a referral from your doctor.  Good luck.


        Sara

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        Resident of Pennsyltucky

          Stand with your legs shoulder width apart.  Pick up an object (find a comfortable weight that you can feel pulling in your back but its not heavy - for me its a 40 lb dumbbell).  Straighten SLOWLY and STEADILY from your waist until you are straight up, then back in a smooth motion.  Do 2 or 3 sets of 10 after a run or a weight workout.

           

          Have had low back issues for 15 years - this does great at keeping them minimized...I can tell a difference if I'm not doing.

           

          Note:  do not do this workout if you are feeling spasms or are super-tight.  OK when its just a bit sore or feels normal.

           

          Good luck!

          21st century PR's: 1 mile: 5:27 (11/02), 2 miles: 12:10 (9/10), 5K: 19:28 (9/10), 5 miles: 32:36 (10/10), 10 miles: 1:13:22 (3/10)
          Goal? To try and make some of these into lifetime bests.


          Resident of Pennsyltucky

            PS as for running again you can do if you're comfortable.  My friend (a PT) suggested flexing (clenching) your abs periodically during a run.  Some low back pain is caused by a muscle imbalance with tight back and weak abs.
            21st century PR's: 1 mile: 5:27 (11/02), 2 miles: 12:10 (9/10), 5K: 19:28 (9/10), 5 miles: 32:36 (10/10), 10 miles: 1:13:22 (3/10)
            Goal? To try and make some of these into lifetime bests.
            ud32


              Have you ever had an MRI - you may have abulging disc or herniation. I had both - Yoga and a book called Back R x by Vijay Vad did more help for me than anything else I tried.
              NolaGal1


                Well, I had been doing better.  I cut the grass Saturday and took a long walk with some running thrown in too.  That all felt fine but this morning was bad and I had to pull the cane out of the closet.  I have an appointment with a doctor tomorrow.  I've never had xrays or an MRI so I guess that might be a good idea at this point just to be safe. 

                 

                I'm hoping it's just muscular.  I'll update tomorrow.
                  Well, the other day, I bent over to pick something up and felt a twinge.  It was quick and pain gone.  I went out later that night and ran 3 miles feeling really good. 

                   

                  I woke up the next morning and the back was 'out'.  Luckily, I'm on vacation this week so I'm resting it and doing the ice thing.  It's better today but not completely.  It's tight and sore but I'm not getting the incredible spasms I got last year.

                   

                   

                  Couple q's:

                   

                  - Do you wear heels?  My wife (a Chiropractor) sees a lot of women who throw out their backs due to wearing heels at work (she herself used to have the same problem herself before going to school).  Ditching the heels for flats almost always solves the heel-wearers' problems

                   

                  - Do you do crunches or other stomach exercises?  If not, it's a good idea to start.  Running builds a lot of strength in your back/hamstrings/calves, without building as much in your quads/abs.  This can create muscle imbalances that result in back and knee problems.  Adding at least 3-4 5 minute ab sessions to your routine is a great way to correct the element of this imbalance that can cause back pain.  Captain's Chair, Bicycle moves, crunch (and hold, but not full situps), and working with an exercise ball can all be helpful

                   

                  - It may be worth seeing your Chiropractor a couple times and seeing a massage therapist once or twice to hasten your recovery (plus, since you're on vacation you have a great excuse to get a massage).  From what I've seen with my wife and some of her patients/friends, this type of thing can come back if you're not careful.

                   

                  Best wishes!

                  My 2010 goals:
                  -Get well (tendonitis is not going away)
                  Ed4


                  Barefoot and happy

                    Here's another vote for yoga.  It does wonders for core strength and flexibility. 

                     

                    A lot of back problems happen because of weak supporting muscles, which cause other muscles to compensate and overwork.


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                    NolaGal1


                      Well, I went to the doctor today.  He gave me the 'straight leg test' which I understand is used to look for disc problems.  I passed.  He sent me for an x-ray.  I was in a car accident many years ago and also went sky-diving about 10 years ago.  (The landing was pretty hard on my back but I didn't have problems then.)  I'm assuming that's why he did an x-ray instead of a CT or MRI.

                       

                      They did the x-ray with me flat on my back and then took several pictures with me lying on my left side...none with me on the right side.  Anyone have any idea what that might be about?  I don't think I'll get the results for a couple of days.

                       

                      He gave me a muscle relaxant and one painkiller that I can use during the day while at work and another for at night.  Hopefully I won't need this long.  I'm trying not to get too bummed out yet.  I want to run but still need the cane to walk...


                        They did the x-ray with me flat on my back and then took several pictures with me lying on my left side...none with me on the right side.  Anyone have any idea what that might be about?  I don't think I'll get the results for a couple of days.

                         


                         

                        Since x-rays are only 2-dimensional, they need to take 2 views to determine depth.  For illustration, let's say while you were lying on your back you put your hand on your belly.  The x-ray would easily show your hand, but it would be difficult to tell if it was in front or behind your spine.  The side x-ray gives this extra dimension (which is why there's no reason to take both a right and left sided x-ray)

                        My 2010 goals:
                        -Get well (tendonitis is not going away)
                        NolaGal1


                           

                          Since x-rays are only 2-dimensional, they need to take 2 views to determine depth. 

                           


                           

                          Thanks, that's a relief.  I was worried that it meant they saw something.

                          NolaGal1


                            I got a call from the doctor's office today.  He got the x-ray reports back and says I need to call an orthopedic surgeon.  The woman who called me said the x-ray showed "spurring at L-3,4 and 5 and a curve".  Does anyone have any idea what that means?

                             

                            I imagine they will do more tests...MRIs etc. before recommending anything.  I'm kind of freaked out about it.  I'm only 46yo and never dreamed this could be serious enough to warrant even considering back surgery...


                              I got a call from the doctor's office today.  He got the x-ray reports back and says I need to call an orthopedic surgeon.  The woman who called me said the x-ray showed "spurring at L-3,4 and 5 and a curve".  Does anyone have any idea what that means?

                               

                              I imagine they will do more tests...MRIs etc. before recommending anything.  I'm kind of freaked out about it.  I'm only 46yo and never dreamed this could be serious enough to warrant even considering back surgery...


                               

                              Almost everyone has some degree of "spurring" in their spine, although for those under ~60 it is usually far too little to pick up on x-ray.  Spurring is a side-effect of degeneration, and your "hard landing" while skydiving certainly could have been a contributing factor. Being "a bit overweight" doesn't help either.

                               

                              This is not something to freak out over though.  The Orthopedic surgeon will be able to provide you with the best course of action.  Many people do not need surgery - physical therapy, exercise, diet, and/or manipulative therapy (either by a chiropractor or D.O.) are all helpful ... but don't do any of this before speaking with the surgeon.  If your spurring is bad, he may recommend surgery ... but since you can currently mow the lawn/walk/run/etc I'm guessing that's not the case.

                               

                              Best of luck, and don't freak out - this happens to almost everyone (just usually a little later in life)

                              My 2010 goals:
                              -Get well (tendonitis is not going away)
                                I'm personally very wary of surgeons for back issues. Just because they have a hammer doesn't mean you've got a nail. When I had significant back issues I did lots of reading, including accessing studies/study reviews, and gathering all the info I could. It seems like the medical community doesn't have a great handle on why people have back pain. E.g., one person with severe herniation may have no pain at all while another with very little herniation can hardly roll over while lying down but the docs can only guess at why.

                                 

                                There are folks that believe many/most back pain issues have their source in mental/emotional stress (not that the pain is psychosomatic). All that I know is that I was introduced to a book on this, Healing Back Pain by Dr John Sarno, and figured I'd check it out. I bought the book, read it over a weekend, and within a week my pain was gone. I went from riding in a wheelchair if I went to a store to no pain at all. I have the MRIs showing significant herniation in two disks of my lumbar spine and had a surgeon ready to cut me open. I'm glad I didn't go that route. This was several years ago...

                                I know this is a lot to swallow and some will never believe it (especially when they have an expert showing them xrays and MRIs "proving" the cause of the pain) but it's worth checking out. You may end up deciding the guy is a quack (many do) or you may find yourself painfree like a lot of other people...

                                 

                                Kirk

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