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posted: 4/3/2008 at 3:44 PM |
I was out in China (Hangzhou) in September.
ALthough I brought my running shoes over there, I only ran once. I went to the gym in the hotel and tried to run 5k at an easy pace (10:00mm). After 2km, my lungs were burning (not from effort). After 3km, I had to walk, and at 4km, I gave up. It was impossible for me to run.
While no one would accuse me of being an Olympic marathoner, I can't imagine anyone trying to do long runs in that atmosphere. |
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posted: 4/3/2008 at 4:50 PM |
I brought mine over too. I ran once in Hong Kong (along the waterfront 4 miles) which was awesome. They don't have a air pollution problem there being on the ocean.
I also ran once in Beijing at around 6:30 AM. I ran really really slowly and actually it was easier than I thought though it was less than 3miles! People there definitely are not used to runners. They musta thought I was nuts as it was about 40deg out and I was in shorts and short sleeve shirt while they were all wearing heavy, heavy coats. Chinese like to be bundled up because they think being cold is unhealthy. I did see one other guy out running - a local I think and I gave, and got in return, the runner's nod as we passed. |
2008 Goals:
2000 miles for the year
100 mile week
Sub 3:10 marathon
Sub 19min 5K
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posted: 4/3/2008 at 5:35 PM |
| Quote from JakeKnight on 4/2/2008 at 11:07 PM: I just snarfed Diet Coke out my nose. Who should I send the bill for my new keyboard?
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posted: 4/4/2008 at 2:50 AM |
| No way an athlete pulls out over human rights issues. Only governments are stupid enough to play those games. |
| What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles, Miles of Trials. How could they be expected to understand that? -John Parker |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 12:17 AM |
As long as we're sharing anecdotes, here are the results from the Beijing Marathon last October, which is, you know, an actual athletic competition in Beijing. On the men's side at least, that makes Beijing faster than any American marathon last year.
Men -
1. Nephat Kinyanjui, KEN 2:08:09
2. Ren Longyun, CHN 2:08:15
3. Han Gang, CHN 2:08:56
4. David Kipkorir Mandago, KEN 2:09:59
5. Luka Chelimo, KEN 2:10:47
6. Kataoka Yusuke, JPN 2:12:28
7. Kiprotich Kenei, KEN 2:14:30
8. Chen Guoqiang, CHN 2:14:39
9. John Maluni, KEN 2:14:51
10. Su Wei, CHN 2:14:53
Women -
1. Chen Rong, CHN 2:27:05
2. Zhang Yingying, CHN 2:27:20
3. Bai Xue, CHN 2:27:46
4. Zhu Yingying, CHN 2:28:47
5. Jo Pun Hui, PRK 2:29:16
6. Zhang Xin, CHN 2:31:29
7. Jong Yong Ok, PRK 2:32:28
8. Yang Fengxia, CHN 2:33:11
9. An Un Suk, PRK 2:33:12
10. Kim Kum Ok, PRK 2:33:58
China also held the World Junior Championships in August 2006. The times were slow, but no slower than they would be in any other hot, humid location. |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 2:59 AM |
| Quote from Mr R on 4/4/2008 at 2:50 AM: No way an athlete pulls out over human rights issues. Only governments are stupid enough to play those games.
My favorite post of the day. |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 2:59 PM |
| Quote from adeel on 4/10/2008 at 12:17 AM: As long as we're sharing anecdotes, here are the results from the Beijing Marathon last October, which is, you know, an actual athletic competition in Beijing. On the men's side at least, that makes Beijing faster than any American marathon last year.
Men -
1. Nephat Kinyanjui, KEN 2:08:09
2. Ren Longyun, CHN 2:08:15
3. Han Gang, CHN 2:08:56
4. David Kipkorir Mandago, KEN 2:09:59
5. Luka Chelimo, KEN 2:10:47
6. Kataoka Yusuke, JPN 2:12:28
7. Kiprotich Kenei, KEN 2:14:30
8. Chen Guoqiang, CHN 2:14:39
9. John Maluni, KEN 2:14:51
10. Su Wei, CHN 2:14:53
Women -
1. Chen Rong, CHN 2:27:05
2. Zhang Yingying, CHN 2:27:20
3. Bai Xue, CHN 2:27:46
4. Zhu Yingying, CHN 2:28:47
5. Jo Pun Hui, PRK 2:29:16
6. Zhang Xin, CHN 2:31:29
7. Jong Yong Ok, PRK 2:32:28
8. Yang Fengxia, CHN 2:33:11
9. An Un Suk, PRK 2:33:12
10. Kim Kum Ok, PRK 2:33:58
China also held the World Junior Championships in August 2006. The times were slow, but no slower than they would be in any other hot, humid location.
Is it true that every single runner in the top 10 of the men's and women's division now has lung cancer and/or emphysema as a result of running in Beijing? |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 3:03 PM |
| Quote from adeel on 4/10/2008 at 12:17 AM: As long as we're sharing anecdotes, here are the results from the Beijing Marathon last October, which is, you know, an actual athletic competition in Beijing. On the men's side at least, that makes Beijing faster than any American marathon last year.
Men -
1. Nephat Kinyanjui, KEN 2:08:09
2. Ren Longyun, CHN 2:08:15
3. Han Gang, CHN 2:08:56
4. David Kipkorir Mandago, KEN 2:09:59
5. Luka Chelimo, KEN 2:10:47
6. Kataoka Yusuke, JPN 2:12:28
7. Kiprotich Kenei, KEN 2:14:30
8. Chen Guoqiang, CHN 2:14:39
9. John Maluni, KEN 2:14:51
10. Su Wei, CHN 2:14:53
Women -
1. Chen Rong, CHN 2:27:05
2. Zhang Yingying, CHN 2:27:20
3. Bai Xue, CHN 2:27:46
4. Zhu Yingying, CHN 2:28:47
5. Jo Pun Hui, PRK 2:29:16
6. Zhang Xin, CHN 2:31:29
7. Jong Yong Ok, PRK 2:32:28
8. Yang Fengxia, CHN 2:33:11
9. An Un Suk, PRK 2:33:12
10. Kim Kum Ok, PRK 2:33:58
China also held the World Junior Championships in August 2006. The times were slow, but no slower than they would be in any other hot, humid location.
I saw these results and posted them last year on Cool Running because I couln't hardly believe, not so much how fast a marathon run in Beijing was, but how fast the Chinese runners were! China will pull a medal(s) from the upcoming Olympic marathon. The 'Home Team' will take the overall medal count, Team USA will be #2. |
2008 Goals:
2000 miles for the year
100 mile week
Sub 3:10 marathon
Sub 19min 5K
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 3:40 PM |
| The Chinese women might medal, but I'd be shocked if China got a medal in the men's race. A couple of 2:08 guys are nothing special. You want to look out for the Kenyans and Ethiopians as always, but also the Japanese, Moroccans, Brazilians and a single American. |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 4:25 PM |
I would have to give Hall the edge. I saw footage of this character run a sub hour half marathon most of it all alone. The guy is young and has room to get better.
Ritz is from my state of Michigan. He is fast but inconsistent from what I hear. I think he has a long ways to go to get faster on longer runs. |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 5:25 PM |
| Ryan Hall is very impressive but he's a 2:08 and change guy - "nothing special"? China, in this race, had two guys there. I wonder if they've gotten any faster or slower? |
2008 Goals:
2000 miles for the year
100 mile week
Sub 3:10 marathon
Sub 19min 5K
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 9:44 PM |
A 2:08 PB means that there are probably 10 with faster times at any major marathon. There are 11 2:07-or-better guys at Rotterdam on Sunday, London has 9. When there are people you've never heard of running 2:06 and the world record is 2:04, a 2:08 is nothing special if you're talking Olympic medals.
* Robert Cheboror (Kenya) 2.06.23, 2004 Amsterdam champion
* William Kipsang (Kenya) 2.06.39, 2003 Amsterdam champion
* Paul Kiprop Kirui (Kenya) 2.06.44, 2006 Rotterdam runner-up
* Richard Limo (Kenya) 2.06.45, 2007 Amsterdam runner-up
* Driss el Himer (France) 2.06.48 Paris (4) 06-04-2003
* Joshua Chelanga (Kenya) 2.07.05 Berlin (3) 26-09-2004
* Benjamin Maiyo (Kenya) 2.07.09 Chicago (2) 09-10-2005
* Salim Kipsang (Kenya) 2.07.29 Berlin (3) 30-09-2007
* Rodgers Rop (Kenya) 2.07.32 Hamburg (1) 29-04-2007
* Francisco Javier Cortez (Spain) 2.07.48 Hamburg (2) 22-04-2001
* Jimmy Muindi (Kenya) 2.07.50 Rotterdam (1) 10-04-2005
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 10:43 PM |
| Quote from kencamet on 4/10/2008 at 3:03 PM: I saw these results and posted them last year on Cool Running because I couln't hardly believe, not so much how fast a marathon run in Beijing was, but how fast the Chinese runners were! China will pull a medal(s) from the upcoming Olympic marathon. The 'Home Team' will take the overall medal count, Team USA will be #2.
There is next to zero chance that the "Home Team " will win the overall medal count. If you look at the last four Olympics the US has gotten 106 (1992), 101 (1996), 95 (2000), and 103 (2004) total medals. China has gotten 52 (1992), 49 (1996), 58 (2000), and 63 (2004). Even if China gets a bump from being the home team, which is common, they will get 70-75 medals tops. The U.S. has not gotten less than 94 medals at any games we have competed in since 1960, and even then we got 90. I'm not saying the U.S will win the medal count, but the only country that has ever beaten us is the Soviet Union (Unified team in 1992), which no longer exists, although Russia was a close second in '00 and '04. |
PR's
1-Mile: 4:42 (1995)
5-K: 15:55 (1999)
10-K: 32:30 (2000)
15-K: 50:18 (2001)
1/2 Mar: 1:13:15 (2000)* 1st half of marathon listed below
Mar: 2:49 (2000) |
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posted: 4/10/2008 at 11:58 PM |
| Quote from kencamet on 4/10/2008 at 5:25 PM: Ryan Hall is very impressive but he's a 2:08 and change guy - "nothing special"?
So you don't think he will improve on that?
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Ricky
2008 Goals: sub-18 5k 17:51 | sub-39 10k 38:35 | sub-3 M
Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go. T.S. Eliot
Play the game, you know you can't quit until it's won.
Soldier on, only you can do what must be done.
You know in some way you're a lot like me.
You're just a prisoner and you're tryin' to break free. |
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posted: 4/11/2008 at 4:20 AM
modified: 4/11/2008 at 4:21 AM |
Calling him a 2:08 and change guy is silly.
On a hilly course, he split 1:02:45 for the second half marathon. The opening 5k of the trials was an easy jog.
He'll probably run 2:06 and change in London.
In his career, he may run under Haile's record. Unfortunately, Wanjiru will probably run faster still. |
| What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles, Miles of Trials. How could they be expected to understand that? -John Parker |
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