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How many stops to rest did he have (where he turned off the GPS). Or did he just leave his house, glance at the clock, run for a while and come back and glance again not really remembering what time he left?
Most people are terrible guesstimators at distance, so if he had no GPS, I bet his "hour-ish" long run felt far, but really wasn't.
Or maybe his garmin is stuck on KMs lol
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Two points for this.
On the original subject, I "coach" a friend that has run for my charity team for the 2013 NYC marathon (November 2013) and 2014 NYC half (March 2014). Coach is in quotes because he does not listen to a thing I say and just does what he wants. The night before the NYC Half, he admitted to me that his training had consisted of a grand total of 12 miles spread over two runs since completing the marathon in November. He ended up running a 1:42 for the half and strongly negative splitting the race.
On the other hand, he is 5' 11" / 145 pounds and is extremely active with other sports (swimming, basketball, squash etc). While I would call him a non-runner, it is a different situation from your non-running buddy. I call BS on the original story.
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There's this one dude who used to hang out around these parts. He never ran, was not a runner. Then he went out and ran a 2:45 marathon or so. And then he went out and ran 102 miles in 13 hours. With just some money in his pocket. Fueled with the single gatorade he bought at the next town 50 miles away. He would only have run 100 miles, but he got lost in his neighborhood upon returning.
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Poor baby
My experience is that new runners or first timers have no idea about distance or pace and no idea how to find out about it. I think I shattered a friends running dreams when I mentioned the route she thought was 6 miles was only around 4. Since then I just kind of smile and nod at people when they say these things. Now if someone's deliberately spewing bs, that's a different story.
I read something similar once in a book called UltraMarathon Man lol
Dean ain't got nothin on Scovill.
Possibilities:
1. BS'ing you for the fun of it.
2. Got the distance wrong.
3. Got the time wrong.
4. Is a liar, in general.
5. Has been training very hard, including running, for the past year, and didn't want to let you know that part of the story.
6. Is naturally very talented, and could have made a small country's Olympic team in his prime.
Since he is your buddy, is he naturally a great athlete? A very good HS or college athlete? Won races in elementary school on games day? If none of those, then prolly didn't happen.
So, this non running buddy of mine, tells me he's been working out. Dropped a few lbs. so now he's 185 lbs and 5-9" and 55 years old, still not exactly in great shape. He hits me up on IM, and asks me, "is a 9 minute mile a good pace for ten miles?"
Yup.
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Sure he does...the drive to self-promote.
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Actually his first marathon was a 3:09. His second was a 2:45. After 3+ years of high mileage he ran 2:27.
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Definitely possible, but not probable. I've always regarded most self-reported-non-race-claims with skepticism, ever since friend of mine in HS claimed to run a 15:30 3-miler (that he measured with his car, supposedly) in the summer, only to show up and run like 19:30 for 5k in the fall. I gave him a lot of crap for taking 4 minutes to do that last tenth of a mile.
That being said, your guy isn't some fat dude claiming to run a sub-four mile split in a 5k marathon. Lots of non-runners who are in good shape and are natural athletes could pull off what he did.
My thought in this case is to keep your skepticism to yourself, and instead strongly encourage him to run a race, all the while praising his apparent natural ability. If the guy succeeds, you can take pride in helping to nurture new talent. Even better, If he blows up in the race, you can have the satisfaction seeing him eat a shit sandwich.
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not sure how a 185 pound guy jogging 9:00 miles is in the same conversation as Scovill. comparing apples and apple trees there is some similarity. but the differences are striking.
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not sure how a 185 pound 55 year old guy jogging 9:00 miles is in the same conversation as Scovill. comparing apples and apple trees there is some similarity. but the differences are striking.
Generally, possible, but unlikely. First run "ever"? lie. Otherwise, I'd say sure, possible. Run with 'im.
Funny you mention this. Talking with a friend of mine that is enamored with Dean, he mentioned he was impressed that Dean ran out to Hopkington, and then back as part of the race. He shut up when he realized I wasn't impressed and said he's just showing off. Boston isn't about Dean running the course twice and thinking everyone is fawning over him.