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Ran a slightly sub-6 pace for the opening 3000m last night, followed by some sprints with an 800m in the middle, then a mile at the end that I only managed 6:30 -- discovered that the 3000m leaves me tired, and the sprinting keeps me tired. Dunno how those kids & guys do it, that double the mile and 2 mile in one meet.
Because their coaches are (*^&*%!ed in the head :-) HATED when I had to double the mile and 2 mile, usually maybe an hour apart. Good job with your run last night.
I did a tempo run - mile in 8 minutes followed by 2 in 12:26 followed by another in 8 minutes. I did run in the morning yesterday so I felt flatter than normal but I may have been able to gut out another half a mile at that pace. Still, that 2 miles took down a split in a 2004 race as my fastest since '95. Looks like about ~33 miles for the week without a long run, next week with a long run I want to hit upper 30s.
John - Great race, though I feel your pain. When trying to break 5 in the mile in high school I ran 5:01 three straight times then 5:00. Finally did it on my fifth try. You'll get there!!!
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I never minded it too much. There were a few times when they sat me out of the mile, hoping I could run a faster two-mile, but it usually didn't work. (Not to mention the time we lost by one point where we got swept in the mile with me not running -- cost us the meet.)
In fact, my junior year, they sat me out of the 4x800m, and I ended up being sluggish in the mile. It would kill me now, but the 4x800-1600-3200 triple worked for me. I think going out and blasting that 800m at the beginning of the meet got me loose physically, and helped calm my nerves mentally, because I knew that nothing that would follow would hurt that bad. It didn't hurt that these three events were pretty evenly spaced throughout the meet.
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I never minded it too much. There were a few times when they sat me out of the mile, hoping I could run a faster two-mile, but it usually didn't work. (Not to mention the time we lost by one point where we got swept in the mile with me not running -- cost us the meet.) In fact, my junior year, they sat me out of the 4x800m, and I ended up being sluggish in the mile. It would kill me now, but the 4x800-1600-3200 triple worked for me. I think going out and blasting that 800m at the beginning of the meet got me loose physically, and helped calm my nerves mentally, because I knew that nothing that would follow would hurt that bad. It didn't hurt that these three events were pretty evenly spaced throughout the meet.
I did OK with the 4x800/1600/800 triple, because I would recover for the 800 due to having to wait through the 3200 races. The only time it hurt was when we faced a good team in the 4x800 and I had to race it, otherwise I'd go 5 seconds or so slower than I could so that I was fresh for the 1600. Sometimes I'd sit the 4x800 to concentrate on the mile. Had I done a little more endurance in high school it wouldn't have taken so much out of me.
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I had none of those. Thanks to two teammates in particular I won exactly 4 non-relay track races my last 3 years of high school. And being a distance runner in college the highest I ever placed in a meet was when i did the hammer throw and finished 3rd.
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It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.
I'll shoot for 18:36 again
Nice Senor Perro, git er done.
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I was a field event specialist in high school (loved pole-vaulting), but participated in the decathlon once at the AAU Nationals. The 1500M was always the last event – it’s like they thought they were doing us a favor. In fact, I think after I finished that race (4:49), I swore I would never run another long distance race again. Lasted almost 10 years.
Props to the people who doubled in the distance events.
Just FYI, recommended easy pace for someone currently running a 19:00 5k is 8:09, so be careful that you're not going too fast on your easy days. Conversely, it could mean you're in better shape than you think, but you won't really know until you race.
Just to revisit this, last night I focused on staying within myself just to make sure I wasn't running too hard. It was also a little humid outside. I know I started a bit slower than usual and the whole run felt very easy. I didn't look at my watch until the 4 mile mark...I got to the 4 mile mark exactly 8 seconds slower than I had the five previous times (remarkably consistent - I was within 3 seconds of the same exact time 5 straight times without looking at the watch). I still averaged 7:44/mile.
I may very well be in 18:30 shape if you add in the 12:26 two mile tempo split I had Wednesday. But I need a little more mileage base, hopefully I get it into the 40s by early July.
Good luck in the track race Perros and anyone else racing this weekend who hasn't mentioned yet.
I'm pretty sure I never won any race in track or cross-country. Hope to do a 5K tomorrow morning -- after all my track runs last night and the night before. I'll shoot for 18:36 again -- it is a flat course, so if I can summon up the energy, it's a good place to shoot for it. And if not, I'm probably going to do a track 5000m next week anyway; you can't get flatter than that
Good luck! Summer solstice this weekend so that's probably a good omen - in some culture, somewhere.
Let us know how it goes. Hopefully it isn't too hot where you are.
John
When you are running 25-30 miles a week, running 7:3x-7:4x as your easy pace really isn't that bad, since you are not running that much miles.. However, when you get up into the mega-miles (like >50-60mpw) your body will force you to slow down, simple from fatigue et. al.
Just to revisit this, last night I focused on staying within myself just to make sure I wasn't running too hard. It was also a little humid outside. I know I started a bit slower than usual and the whole run felt very easy. I didn't look at my watch until the 4 mile mark...I got to the 4 mile mark exactly 8 seconds slower than I had the five previous times (remarkably consistent - I was within 3 seconds of the same exact time 5 straight times without looking at the watch). I still averaged 7:44/mile. I may very well be in 18:30 shape if you add in the 12:26 two mile tempo split I had Wednesday. But I need a little more mileage base, hopefully I get it into the 40s by early July. Good luck in the track race Perros and anyone else racing this weekend who hasn't mentioned yet.
So I aggravated an old ankle/high Achilles/low calf (who knows) injury on Tuesday of last week and have been off ever since. It feels just good enough to run at a moderate pace, but is never far away from feeling like it could blow up. Ugh. Another two step forward, one step back training month for me. I’m going to try and get to a pool this time. I still don’t understand how drinking beer and getting a tan has anything to do with recovery, though. Oh wait…do I have to get IN the pool?!
Nightmare regarding the injury Roeido, just take it easy until it's recovered.
It seems to be catching though. I seem to have an ankle problem too. I haven't been able to run the last few days as I've been limping with a sore area on the inside of my shin. I'm going to have to go and see a specialist. Not what you want 3 weeks into marathon training.
Roth,
That area is almost exactly where the pain in my leg is localized as well. I generally get over it with ice and a couple of days off, but this time it has set up camp and looks to stay a bit. Good luck at the doctor.
By the way, I’ve always wondered about your profile picture. Is that your Dachshund? We have a black and tan miniature long-hair (there’s a joke here, I know) who I am reminded of every time you post. We shaved him recently and left a Mohawk. Looks like Mr. T.
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