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arlahile


    posted: 4/26/2012 at 4:43 PM

    Case report from a 19 yo football player with exertional rhabdo after an ice bath, note the conclusions (I'm not sure I agree with the conclusions, btw)

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22488291

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    spaniel


    mileage hound

      posted: 4/26/2012 at 5:35 PM
      It is kind of moronic to make those conclusions from a single case study.

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      waytogo


        posted: 4/26/2012 at 6:20 PM
        Quote from spaniel on 4/26/2012 at 5:35 PM:
        It is kind of moronic to make those conclusions from a single case study.

         

        Don't you mean "moranic"?
        bhearn


          posted: 4/26/2012 at 6:23 PM

          I must be missing something... there are various reasons for using an ice bath after hard training, but that wouldn't be expected to have any relation to rhabdo, would it? If your muscles are damaged and leaking myoglobin, then they are damaged and leaking myoglobin. An ice bath is not going to fix that (or cause it).

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          spaniel


          mileage hound

            posted: 4/26/2012 at 6:42 PM
            Quote from bhearn on 4/26/2012 at 6:23 PM:

            I must be missing something... there are various reasons for using an ice bath after hard training, but that wouldn't be expected to have any relation to rhabdo, would it? If your muscles are damaged and leaking myoglobin, then they are damaged and leaking myoglobin. An ice bath is not going to fix that (or cause it).

             

            Yup.  We used to use ice baths in college, but I don't recall stopping acute muscle breakdown having anything to do with it.

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            arlahile


              posted: 4/27/2012 at 12:57 PM
              Quote from bhearn on 4/26/2012 at 6:23 PM:

              I must be missing something... there are various reasons for using an ice bath after hard training, but that wouldn't be expected to have any relation to rhabdo, would it? If your muscles are damaged and leaking myoglobin, then they are damaged and leaking myoglobin. An ice bath is not going to fix that (or cause it).

               This is what I was thinking - it seems the authors are implying that the ice bath somehow caused or at least exacerbated the rhabdo, and that just didn't make sense to me.

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