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11 year old wants to run 10 miler... whaddaya think? (Read 1965 times)

    She's lean and built like a runner and she's been training with me.  She's going out for cross country next year at school.  And she wants to run Philly's Broad Street Run with me on May 2.  She paces herself well, etc.  Not going for speed (she typically runs (9:45 minute miles or so) just distance.  Is this a bad idea?  I need guidance here please.  I'm torn.  I LOVE that she wants to do it, but 10 miles is a long way...


    Zeus

      Looks like the race is May 2nd.  Why not sign her up for a 5k or 10k before then and see if she likes it and is willing to go for a longer period of time.  How long of runs has she been on before?  If she's approaching 8 miles in practice, 10 miles should be no problem.  Probably just needs to be reminded that an even pace is best, no reason to race the clock or others around her and to stop and rest if/when needed.

      2011 goals [take 1]: 18:36 5k; 39:59 10k; 1:29:00 1/2 marathon; 3:10:00 BQ marathon (2013 standards)
      2011 goals [take 2]: 18:00 5k; 38:30 10k; 1:28:26 1/2 mar; 3:03:00
      2nd life PR's: 19:24 5k / 39:52 10k / 1:27:36 1/2 mar / 3:08:03 marathon

        Young kids are born to run.  Their oxygen uptake level is actually better than that of adult simply because they have a smaller frame. 

         

        I like what Sac had said but would like to add 2 more things:

         

        1) You said she'd be running with you--IF she wants to walk or drop out, you should do so with her.  The important thing is not to give her an impression that it's bad to drop out or that she had failed.  Not big deal and you'd be there for her.  If you'd been training for that race, it'd be a bummer for you but I think it's very important to be there and make her feel like it's perfectly okay to walk or quit.  When our daughter smashed our car (), we rushed there and of course there's no point of yelling at her or anything; just give her a hug and make her feel like it's perfectly okay (and then scold the hell out of her a week later!).

         

        2) So she's 11-years-old and turning out for XC practice...  Like I said, she might actually turn out to do very well in that 10-miler simply because of higher oxygen consumption ability of little kids.  But in a year or two from now, when she goes through puberty, her natural performance will drop UNLESS she continues with endurance training.  When they are little, their oxygen carrying capacity is ahead of their body; so they do well in endurance event like running--swimming is a perfect example; you see young teenagers constantly set world beating records simply because they don't have to worry about heavy body.  Now, with puberty setting in, body is catching up and, unless they continue to develop their natural oxygen carrying capacity, they lose that ratio automatically.  What happens then, particularly if the kid was setting some pretty good times, is they get discouraged, frustrated and, at worst, would try too hard to work on speed instead of going the distance. 

         

        There are lots of kids out there who run very well.  I've seen many low-teens running very impressively (beating me along the way!!).  Invariably, they are with a very small frame.  But 3 years later, you don't hear about them any more.  Invariably, either they themselves or their coach or parents set out too high of a goal, based on those premature performances, thinking they'll be a world beater in the next 3 years.  There's nothing wrong with kids training very hard as long as it's been handled in a very sensible manner.  But once their focus finds the numbers--how many miles a week they run, how fast they run a mile, 5k, 10k or whatever, comparing the times they ran last year or how fast some other 12-year-old had run...then it'll become a problem.  The only thing kids can understand is number.  So, as a parent or, at this point, as a coach/mentor, you'll have to be very careful to make sure that they simply enjoy running for the sake of enjoyment of running.  Encourage them to run; shift the focus away from racing (racing I mean, not participating "a race" but any form of competitive racing including racing against him/herself).

         

        It is absolutely great to run with your own kid.  Treasure the experience; set out days to train with her.  Next thing you know, she'll be heading for college, or spending more time with her bodyfriend than you.  Enjoy it while you can!! ;o)  The key, really, is to slow them down.  Go for how far/long you run; not how fast.


        Semi-Advanced Lurker

          Does she have someone to run the race with?


          I did a 10k at 10 years old by myself.  I did a half marathon at 12 with someone to run with. It helped a lot. I bet I didn't have near the training that she does... If she has a good head on her shoulders, I'm sure she'll be fine...


          -Kelly

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          jules2

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            Ed4


            Barefoot and happy

              Sure.  No reason not to.

               

              Kids are incredibly resilient.  Even if she had zero training, but was enthusiastic, I would say yes. 

               

              The only time you need to worry about kids and running is when they want to run a grueling training program week after week.  That's not necessarily a good idea.  But one hard race is fine.  It's more than fine, it's fantastic.

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              elle aime courir

                I agree with Ed (for once ).  I would say go for it.  I too think that as long as you keep it fun and not gruelling (as much as possible with 10 mi) there should be no problem.  Oh yah, and tell her to wear good shoes. 

                800m PR- 2:36

                5k PR- 21:00 (road); 20:15 (trail)

                10k PR- 49:00

                10mi PR- 1:23:27

                Commanderrt


                  Whoever said that your daughters should run a 5k or 10k before she runs 10 miles is right. I'm a teen kid who is one of the best runners on my cross-country team, and the muscles get pretty sore before a teen finishes 10 miles. At the end of 5k, my muscles are exhausted. If I were you, I'd have her run a 5k, then 10k, and if she's up to it, 10 miles. Good luck!
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                    jleva412


                      I'm curious about how many of those who responded have children, or ran at that age.  I started running competitively at 12. In my opinion, she is WAY too young for such a long distance.  Her body is busy putting energy into growing, where ist should be, and shouldn't be concerned with muscle development.  Of those of us who started running at an early age, very few remain runners.  I myself had several injuries, orthopedic in nature, that are related to starting serious training too early.  Encourage her to keep running IF she enjoys it, but not because you want to see her do it.  I've seen far too many parents at road races pushing their child to run hard because they can't/couldn't.
                        FWIW I say 10 miles is too long.
                          Thanks everyone.  She's running a 5K (with me) in 2 weeks and an 8K (again, with me) in mid April.  She'll work up to 8 miles before the long race and will be training up to 18 miles or so a week.  I signed her up for it and we'll see how the training goes.  I was more worried about long term affects on her young joints.  Hate to wear out her perfectly good knees at such an early age!!
                            Oh, and by the way, this is completely her idea, not mine.  I hemmed and hawed before I caved in and signed her up.  I ran a half marathon last year and she started running with me while I was training... there are worse habits that kids can pick up from their parents, right?  But you can bet your bottom dollar that I'm gonna watch her like a hawk during this training... we'll see.
                            Jemez


                              Both of my kids (now 8 & 10) have run a few races (2k-5k).  Both wanted to do this having seen me race.  Personally, I think 10 miles is too long for an 11 year old.  My daughter (now 10) has done well in all her races, and even though she wants to go farther, I've tried to emphasize to her that it isn't all about running farther every time, and that we can increase her training with the goal of running a stronger 5k.  5k is a good distance for an 8-10 year old, in my experience.  I'd consider 10k around 11-12, but not more than that.

                               

                              In fact, if you look at Glover's competitive runners handbook, he specifically states that 10 miles is not recommended for a 12 year old.

                               

                              Ed4


                              Barefoot and happy

                                I started running competitively at 12.

                                 

                                The key word being "competitively". 

                                 

                                I agree that an 11 year old should not be trying to race 10 miles competitively.  Because that would involve a serious daily training program, and that can take a toll.

                                 

                                But going out and racing 10 miles for the fun of it is a very different thing. 

                                 

                                Kids need very little training to be able to go out and run comfortably and safely.  A couple fun runs a week are not going to do any damage, and they're all the training that's necessary.  Just one or two runs a week.  Many kids can probably do 10 miles without even that.

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