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formerly RacingThoughts
posted: 1/15/2008 at 9:56 PM
modified: 1/15/2008 at 10:06 PM
My back and neck have been killing me lately. They always seem sore, especially after a long run. I had scoliosis when I was younger (might still have it) and have always had back problems. It doesn't help that I have an office/desk job and sit on my butt all day. We have a chiropractor here who has treated some of the fastest local runners (including a 28.xx 10K 13.xx 5K guy) and athletes around here. He specializes in sports injuries and active release therapy and I'm thinking about setting up an appointment. It will be covered by my insurance, 30 visits/year at $25 a pop. Has anyone seen a chiropractor / A.R.T. specialist with good results?
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posted: 1/15/2008 at 10:04 PM
modified: 1/15/2008 at 10:06 PM
Quote from Dustin on 1/15/2008 at 9:56 PM:
Has anyone seen a chiropractor / A.R.T. specialist with good results?


I have had good results in the past, but it was not in relation to injuries from running.

In December 2007, I got 2 chiropractor adjustments and that helped out a bit. It was kind of expensive ($50 per visit... include electric stimulation). It seemed to help for a little bit, however my neck is still sort of funky and it's been that way since May.
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posted: 1/15/2008 at 10:07 PM
Chiropractors scare me. It seems like it would be too easy for them to wrench my spine wrong and paralyze me or something. I had it done once and I felt like I had been hit by a Mac truck for a day or two.

I prefer deep tissue massage and acupuncture. Less invasive, IMO.

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UpNorth
posted: 1/16/2008 at 8:00 PM
No personal experience here so take my 2nd hand information for what it is worth. I've heard plenty of bad stories about Chiros and some good stuff, but I've heard a lot of good feedback about ART. Particularly I like what this ART guy (Bill Hartman) says in his blog and articles.
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Style Over Substance!
posted: 1/16/2008 at 8:08 PM
i never believed in chiropractors. I had lower back issues that was bad enough that i went against my belief and went to one. After four appointments it got better...of course, the four appointments stretched out over 4 weeks so whether it helped or just plain extra rest that did it. So the ruling on the field stands, I still don't believe in chiropractors.
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No one's nemesis
posted: 1/16/2008 at 9:07 PM
I see one regularly. I have had good results with my D.C., who I know and trust, and who knows that I feel some of the stuff they espouse is bullsh*t. But, I also know that what he has done for me has worked. I know there are a lot of scammers out there, but if you can find one that you trust, I think you will have some positive results with them and, if you don't, you always have the option not to go any more. I actually have a recent post on my blog about a post-race need for an andjustment that helped me tremendously.
Rick
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posted: 1/16/2008 at 9:54 PM
I have been seeing a chiro for about 6 months. After the 4th adjustment, pain in my foot that had been there for nearly a year went away.

i agree that all they espouse has some spin on it Still, I have run better since having started treatment and the chiro will do different things than what deep tissue massage or acupuncture will do.
hdh
Older and Slower
posted: 1/16/2008 at 10:58 PM
You can't categorically condemn chiropractors. Some of the best sports docs in the country (check out John King Marino in Doylestown, PA for one) are Chiros by degree, but practice ART and other good PT techniques. The key is finding a practitioner who works with athletes and isn't just looking to pop a few joints around (no pun intended).
"It's not who wins the workout..."
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posted: 1/16/2008 at 11:39 PM
dustin it sounds like you may have found a top notch guy.

i have had great results with an osteopath; he worked with tri-athletes in australia, then runners in boulder, and now moved to my town. i also see a sports massage person who works with cyclists and boxers. between the two of them, i stay healthy, and i'm making progress on some chronic problems with my ankle.

keep an open mind though... i tried out 4 massage people before i found a good one... even some of the ones recommended to me by fellow runners didn't work out. if this guy doesn't work out, keep asking around and looking.

re: sitting all day. last year i got off my butt and ordered a sit/stand computer desk at work. there are some pricey ones, but this one is cheap. i try to stand about an hour or two each day, and it helps enormously! check out this one, or others like it:
http://www.desks4computers.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=D&Product_Code=82493
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TRI-HARD
posted: 1/17/2008 at 2:39 AM
I have been seeing chiropractors off and on for about the last ten years. I have had good ones and not so good ones, and have most recently started seeing a new one that does practice A.R.T.. This guy has been great!! Also has worked on some major running and Tri athletes. He is also a runner, ultra runnner and ironman. My opinion, chiropractors work.
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posted: 1/17/2008 at 3:48 AM
I've seen chiropractors most of my life. Like anyone in any profession, there are good ones and bad ones. But honestly, chiropractic has helped me a LOT for any number of various aches and pains. IMO that's all they can and should treat, is musculoskeletal issues, but I've had my chiropractor fix in 2 visits what "traditional" medicine would pump me full of painkillers and muscle relaxers for weeks and only get moderate improvement.

I don't have experience with ART so I can't comment on that, but it seems that your type of pain is something a chiropractor could effectively treat. Just do your homework and find one that's on the same page as you regarding what your needs are and what you're comfortable with.
Grzldvt
posted: 1/17/2008 at 7:50 AM
Wasn't a believer at all. I battled with sciatica for a couple of years with zero results. After getting several "second" opinions the doctor decided it was time to go in. Friend of mine convinced me to at least try a chiropractor. So I did... absolutely the best thing that has happened to me. She practices the Gonstead method and has been nothing short of spectacular.
Cleared my sciatica in a couple of visits, showed me preventive exercises and stretches, which have worked.
Then we started working on my posture. it is not perfect yet, but we are getting there.


I visit her every other week and wouldn't miss an appointment. I am now a huge fan.
She also did wonders for my wife, who could barely move.
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Grand Illusionist
posted: 1/17/2008 at 7:25 PM
My 26 year old cousin died on a chiroprators table while an "adjustment was made" sinus realted issues or something or other. Personally, I'll never trust one after that.

My only advice is to make sure you know the background about the person and place you choose. recommendations from living people don't count. Ask your doctor if he or she even recommends a chirpractor and if so, a recommendation.
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posted: 1/17/2008 at 7:33 PM
Oh my god! I'm so sorry! What happened?
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formerly RacingThoughts
posted: 1/17/2008 at 7:48 PM
Wow, that is horrible! I've heard neck adjustments can be potentially fatal, I'll definitely be careful of those. My appointment is in 45 minutes, I really hope everything goes well.
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