2010 Goal of Sub 3:00 marathon (Read 8423 times)


The King of Beasts

     

    Today ran last 20 miler in the cycle on my 10 mile "hilly" loop course.  First 10 just under 1:18 and 2nd loope around1:12.   Miles 17,18,19 MP + about 10 secs.  Mile 20 MP -10 finishing on a pretty aggressive hill.  Heart rate avg 130 which pleased me as I generally race at about 155 bpm.

     

    = Money

     

    have fun in Boston !

    "As a dreamer of dreams and a travelin' man / I have chalked up many a mile. / Read dozens of books about heroes and crooks, / And I've learned much from both of their styles." ~ Jimmy Buffett

    “"I don't see much sense in that," said Rabbit.
    "No," said Pooh humbly, "there isn't. But there was going to be when I began it. It's just that something happened to it along the way."”


    Be ye ware of ThaThundah

      Dakota is also at altitude...so when he comes DOWN to Boston, he'll have an extra gear.

      V2 is dead...there is only Thunder Classic.  Same great taste as before.


      Right on Hereford...

        Dakota is also at altitude...so when he comes DOWN to Boston, he'll have an extra gear.

         

         

        Dammit. I was hoping you'd forget that.

          The other day on the Boston thread, a lot of us started looking at results from last year, I went one step further today and entered  a few names in athlinks from those that raced at my dream pace.  I am no longer confident I can meet my goal.  I would love to see 2:49:59 but when  I checked 10 people that were around this time,  their recent PR's in all race distances were much faster than mine.   I couldn't find  one person that had PR's close to mine that ran that fast.  I think I better readjust my goal.

           

          I saw flovesparko at the half marathon he ran.  He told me he was "hoping" for a 1:24.  He was a good 30 seconds ahead of me the whole race and didn't look like he was breaking a sweat.  I have a sneaking suspicion he is going to "accidentally" break 2:50, probably while still not breaking a sweat

           

          I'm up in two weeks at St. Louis.  I am hoping for a sub 2:55.  While McMillan predicts a 2:55:40 something based on a 1:23:17 half, I figure I can do this since I ran the half after running a 50K the week before (I was going at easy pace, but it was a very sloppy race).  Like Dakota says, no guts no glory!

           Good luck to the boston crew, sounds like it will be fun for everyone to get together, and have a little friendly competition.

           

          Dopple Bock, I can't wait to see the results of your 24 hour race.  I can't even imagine what goes through your head after 12 hours, much less 23.  Given all the miles you run on the treadmill, you definitely have the mental fortitude to crush this thing, and no one here will question the amazing fitness level you have.  Good luck!

          2012 Goals:
          Run more trails.

            So I ran my half-marathon today.I say "ran" instead of "race" since it was more of a workout. Ran 4 miles easy right before race, then ran the half:


            Half-marathon 1:23:39.

            First 10 @ GMP: (6:26. 6:30, 6:25, 6:20, 6:26, 6:27, 6:24, 6:28, 6:28, 6:34 = 1:04:32)
            Last 5k pick-up. 95-100% last mile (6:14, 6:12, 5:56, 0:44 (5:18/mi)). Last 5k in 19:07.

            Miles 0-1.5 and 7-11.5 were into a 18-25 mph headwind, but overall pleased with the run. Ran another 4 miles easy after the race to make it 21.1


            el Jeffe

              I ran the Birch Bay 30k race yesterday and took 3rd in 2h01. Lots of hills, and a strong headwind down the last 5k, but I think I'm sitting pretty for next month's sub3 attempt in the Vancouver Marathon.


              Right on Hereford...

                DCV, awesome race/workout. The fact that you can run a 19:07 5k after running 1:04 for 10 miles is something I dream to be able to do. You are killing it this training cycle.

                 

                El_jeffe, your 30k is indeed a great predictor of sub-3. VDOT charts give it 2:54, in fact. Nicely done!

                 

                Me, not so much. I barely finished my last 20-miler today at 8:15 pace and felt horrible.


                Be ye ware of ThaThundah

                  DCV, awesome race/workout. The fact that you can run a 19:07 5k after running 1:04 for 10 miles is something I dream to be able to do. You are killing it this training cycle.

                   

                  El_jeffe, your 30k is indeed a great predictor of sub-3. VDOT charts give it 2:54, in fact. Nicely done!

                   

                  Me, not so much. I barely finished my last 20-miler today at 8:15 pace and felt horrible.

                   

                  Chin up Dakota, you still got me in ytd mileage....for another day or two...

                  V2 is dead...there is only Thunder Classic.  Same great taste as before.

                  DoppleBock


                    Sweet! 

                     

                     

                    So I ran my half-marathon today.I say "ran" instead of "race" since it was more of a workout. Ran 4 miles easy right before race, then ran the half:


                    Half-marathon 1:23:39.

                    First 10 @ GMP: (6:26. 6:30, 6:25, 6:20, 6:26, 6:27, 6:24, 6:28, 6:28, 6:34 = 1:04:32)
                    Last 5k pick-up. 95-100% last mile (6:14, 6:12, 5:56, 0:44 (5:18/mi)). Last 5k in 19:07.

                    Miles 0-1.5 and 7-11.5 were into a 18-25 mph headwind, but overall pleased with the run. Ran another 4 miles easy after the race to make it 21.1

                    http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

                    2012 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00 2:56:07, 1/2M < 1:25, 50k < 5 hours 3:44:20, 24 hour > 145 miles

                     

                    Slo Mo Man


                      Hi folks- completed my half marathon on Saturday in my Marathon build up. First time racing this distance as will  my marathon. Finished in 1:23:31. Delighted with my time although I dont think I paced it well. My splits are a bit all over the place but the course was a bit up and down and a fair bit run into a head wind. Probably went out a bit too hard and started to fade a bit between 9 and 12 but still had a 6:10 finish although it was mostly downhill. A good confidence boost and hope I can pull off the sub 3.00
                      "The will to win means nothing without the will to prepare."
                      Goals:
                      Keep on running!
                      DoppleBock


                        Very nice!

                         

                        You will need to get a more consistent effort / pace for the marathon ... It penalizes you more for early pacing mistakes.

                         

                        You got it, you just need to execute. 

                         

                         

                        Hi folks- completed my half marathon on Saturday in my Marathon build up. First time racing this distance as will  my marathon. Finished in 1:23:31. Delighted with my time although I dont think I paced it well. My splits are a bit all over the place but the course was a bit up and down and a fair bit run into a head wind. Probably went out a bit too hard and started to fade a bit between 9 and 12 but still had a 6:10 finish although it was mostly downhill. A good confidence boost and hope I can pull off the sub 3.00

                        http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

                        2012 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00 2:56:07, 1/2M < 1:25, 50k < 5 hours 3:44:20, 24 hour > 145 miles

                         

                          DCV - impressive splits, disipline to hold back, and then a strong final push

                           

                          el_jeffe - congrats on your race

                           

                          kerbcrawler - that's a nice half as well

                           

                          Dakaota - you've run long enough to know one training run doesn't make the race.  You finished in a respectable pace even while feeling not your best.  I'd take it as a positive rather than a negative.

                           

                          67.75 miles last week.   One more mid 60's week and then it's taper time.  My long run this Saturday will end with a 5K race as it's part of our club's participation run.

                           

                          Have a good week of training all.

                          ksrunr
                          All American 10K Feb. '10
                          Cowtown Half marathon Feb. '10
                          Boston '10
                          flovesparko


                            Great job Kerbcrawler, eljeffe, and dcv2002. It appears all of you are on track for excellent marathon results.

                             

                            Dopple Bock mention that I think too much and he's right, I tend to do that as my "A" race gets nearer. I found out last year that almost all my past race results using the McMillians calculator predicted what I would do in future races.

                             

                            Kencamet, I only have three race results this year and the problem I'm having is that one was at the start of my 17 week training cycle, another four weeks later, both were too early and were short races to predict a Boston goal. The only one I have is last weeks half Marathon and the problem with that one is that it was a very hilly course with no taper.  My GPS showed elevation +1728/ -1734 (I know I can't trust that number but I bet it close).  I have a hilly 12 mile training run that routinely shows +1479/ -1482. The race course has more hills. My time for the half was 1:22:36, McMillians predicts 2:54, Daniels has 2:52 for the marathon.  My workouts for the last month (lactate threshold & marathon pace run) have all been run at 2:49 pace equivalents. I think my body will be going through another round of adaptation after the last month of training so I'm hoping for fresh legs like ChakaKahn mentioned, stronger cardio system, and great weather on race day. As Dakota said "no guts, no glory". 

                             

                            Flatfooter, fantastic job on the half marathon especially since you were running on extremely heavy legs from the 50K a week prior, just think what you would have run!

                                

                              My GPS showed elevation +1728/ -1734 (I know I can't trust that number but I bet it close).

                               

                              FYI, I bet it's not close at all if you're relying on your Garmin GPS to report that elevation change.  Probably a lot less than that.

                              I think you'll have a decent shot at 2:50, especially if weather/wind is favorable.  By the way, the prediction put out by Daniels' calculator is the one I usually put the most faith in (in the past it has been the closest of all the calculators). 

                               

                              Anyone else feeling the nervousness setting in?  I'm usually cool as a cucumber leading up to marathons these days but this one has me feeling like a rookie again.  I keep thinking of my remaining workouts and should I do this instead of that etc etc.  I'll be glad when I hit that last workout and then I can relax, hopefully.


                              Are we there yet?

                                Anyone else feeling the nervousness setting in? 

                                 

                                +1

                                 

                                too many unknowns and variables, I have never taken som many days off due to injury then Doppled my log afterward. Perhaps I should just be content to finish sub 3:10... dunno.