Did I just simply not push hard enough at the end?

dbilenkin

posted: 10/3/2011 at 8:37 AM

Hey all,

Take a look at this 25K race I did yesterday:

http://www.runningahead.com/logs/3617c63de2a14bf68ff01b0accf6ceaf/workouts/a11e8247254540459e320ab120d2e6d5

Type	Distance	Time	Total Time	Pace	Avg HR	Max HR	Notes
1	Interval	1 mi	7:49.19	7:49.19	7:50	163	175
2	Interval	1 mi	7:50.36	15:39.55	7:51	169	175
3	Interval	1 mi	7:34.60	23:14.15	7:35	170	173
4	Interval	1 mi	7:42.17	30:56.32	7:43	171	177
5	Interval	1 mi	7:44.36	38:40.68	7:45	172	176
6	Interval	1 mi	7:35.75	46:16.43	7:36	171	176
7	Interval	1 mi	7:51.79	54:08.22	7:52	171	174
8	Interval	1 mi	7:45.60	1:01:53.82	7:46	170	174
9	Interval	1 mi	7:39.54	1:09:33.36	7:40	169	172
10	Interval	1 mi	7:51.19	1:17:24.55	7:52	170	174
11	Interval	1 mi	8:04.91	1:25:29.46	8:05	170	174
12	Interval	1 mi	7:57.05	1:33:26.51	7:58	169	171
13	Interval	1 mi	8:09.87	1:41:36.38	8:10	168	172
14	Interval	1 mi	8:09.16	1:49:45.54	8:10	169	175
15	Interval	1 mi	7:55.65	1:57:41.19	7:56	170	173
16	Interval	0.53 mi	3:56.48	2:01:37.67	7:27	173	186

If you look at my HR, it started to go down instead of up for the last 5 miles. I felt like I was fading and pushing hard to the finish, but my HR tells a different story. This was a disappointing race for me. I was hoping to break 2 hours (7:44 pace) and I thought that was a very doable goal based on my fitness level.

I'm not sure what to think about the race itself and whether my training is making sense (mostly Low hr build up from 20 mile weeks this summer to just under 40 mile weeks with almost no quality work).

I'm looking to continue to build a base and then try to do a 5k at the end of November. Looking for sub 20.

Would love to hear what you folks think.

Easy: Average weight below 160 lbs. for a month

Medium: Average below 155 lbs. for a month • 5K PR • Marathon PR

Hard: Run more miles than last year • Get to below 150 lbs. on marathon day • sub 20 5K • sub 3:30 Marathon

Crazy Hard: Run over 2000 miles • Have ripped abs • 20 pull-ups • sub 19 5K • BQ

pr100

posted: 10/3/2011 at 9:09 AM

I've had the heart rate dropping thing at the end of marathons. In my case it's not through lack of effort - but my legs had just stopped working properly, so I couldn't move them enough to keep the HR up. If the subjective effort feels high at the end then I guess it's some combination of going too fast for what you're capable of on the day, and just running out of fuel.

As far as the 5k goes - it's short enough that you can do them pretty often at full effort. If you can find the races nearby do plenty... establish a benchmark and then keep trying to improve it.

EGH3

posted: 10/3/2011 at 1:46 PM

Quote from dbilenkin on 10/3/2011 at 8:37 AM:

I'm not sure what to think about the race itself and whether my training is making sense (mostly Low hr build up from 20 mile weeks this summer to just under 40 mile weeks with almost no quality work).

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I'd probably start there.

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