New runner, training for 1/2 Marathon (Read 1807 times)


old school badger

posted: 1/7/2009 at 8:53 PM
and you are kicking ass at it as well. well done.
2010 goal = 4:59 for 1,500 meters.
Jeff


fu don't kung think

posted: 1/7/2009 at 8:55 PM
Quote from MrH on 1/7/2009 at 7:29 PM:
The team was plagued by season-ending injuries because of the combination of high intensity and high mileage they followed. Some called the book inspirational, it read more as a horror story to me. Smile


Yep. Most college programs are like that: turn the dial up to 11. You've got a bunch of competitive folk in there together, everyone's used to winning and expects to win, and it's fire island: everyone's gonna get burned. But there are worse outcomes than getting injured. Worse things than taking a giant swing and missing. Fire island may not be smart or cautious, but it's an experience that precious few are lucky enough to have, and one that I cherish.

Anyhow, to get back to training, my view is that it really is the intensity that leads to injury, much more than the mileage. That's a hard pill to swallow when you're 19 and all you wanna do is hurtle your body at the edge of oblivion. Obviously, it takes both to excel in the sport. But qualitative shifts in your running ability happen in the off-season, when no one's looking, the steady grind, the trial of miles. The long lonely miles are what prepare you to sharpen up, to handle the withering intensity, to thrive off it for a time, until you run your best or get injured trying.
posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:20 PM
Quote from Nobby415 on 1/7/2009 at 7:57 PM:
So, Mikey, is this anywhere close to what you are thinking at all? Hey, I’ll be coming to Boston this April. Maybe we can catch up???

Nobby, as usual I agree with just about everything you wrote, however I would not characterize myself as frustrated by the just finish boom. I didn't say anything to indicate I resent those who just want to finish and so I didn't take those comments as directed at me. I don't begrudge anyone their reasons for running. I was actually challenging the notion that road racing has deminished at the expense of the "just finish" boom and, if anything, I was saying that I can understand the newbie's fascination with the marathon.

Still, I train to race and I race to see how fast I can go. And I celebrate those who do the same. This is a sport afterall, an athletic competition.

Nobby, I'd love to meet you in person in April. There are a few others on this board, maybe even this thread who'll be in the area too. Crossroads Pub?
Luti 2010. It won't come down to a kick this year. Thunder by 20+ seconds. Put that in your pipe and smoke it -Thunder, March 18, 2010


Hamster

posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:30 PM
modified: 1/7/2009 at 9:31 PM
Quote from mikeymike on 1/7/2009 at 9:20 PM:
I was actually challenging the notion that road racing has deminished at the expense of the "just finish" boom and, if anything, I was saying that I can understand the newbie's fascination with the marathon.


Just my two cents on this: if even half of the "just finishers" become more serious runners, doesn't that help the sport move forward as a whole? I understand the frustration about people ruining the perception of the marathon as "Everest". However, many "just finishers" have a healthy respect for the distance and, therefore, only perpetuate the perception that 26.2 is (deservedly so) a monumental task.

Take with a grain of salt, I'm trying to "just finish" my first (goal time: 4:30) in May and plan to "race" my first marathon in October. I started as a "just finisher" on the half marathon not too long ago, and got a "healthy" addition to the sport.

MTA: my spelling sucks.
Chris

2010 Goals
Run Consistently
Vegas Marathon and MCM
Do the Breast Cancer 3-day
Help Support My 3-Day. 60 miles to end breast cancer...and I'm trying to raise $3k for the cause!
posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:39 PM
I'm a new runner. Only been at it for just over a year. I know I will be a runner the rest of my life. It's become part of me now. I hate to be lumped into the "just finish boom". My timing is bad I guess. Roll eyes I wasted too many years on my bike. Over the past year I ran a 5k, a few 10k's and a half marathon. This next year I will run several more 5k's and 10k's and a few more halfs and planning on running a marathon someday, maybe 2010. I never went into any of the races with the "just finish" attitude. I'm a slow ass runner, but I always had a goal time to beat. I like the original posters comment to Tanya of "WHY NOT". I really enjoy running now, so why not run half marathons? If I can, then I will. And I agree that you get much better shirts for longer distance runs. So I'm wondering... how many years do I have to run and how many races do I need to finish to have the "just finish boom" stigma removed. Roll eyes
posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:45 PM
Quote from celiacChris on 1/7/2009 at 9:30 PM:
Just my two cents on this: if even half of the "just finishers" become more serious runners, doesn't that help the sport move forward as a whole?

I don't understand the question. How do you define the sport "moving forward" and is it that a good thing? I was saying there's room for everyone and I could care less why someone else runs.

I understand the frustration about people ruining the perception of the marathon as "Everest".

I don't.
Luti 2010. It won't come down to a kick this year. Thunder by 20+ seconds. Put that in your pipe and smoke it -Thunder, March 18, 2010
posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:50 PM
Quote from Anzura on 1/7/2009 at 9:39 PM:
So I'm wondering... how many years do I have to run and how many races do I need to finish to have the "just finish boom" stigma removed. Roll eyes

I guess that's up to you. Why do you feel like there's any kind of stigma attached to you?
Luti 2010. It won't come down to a kick this year. Thunder by 20+ seconds. Put that in your pipe and smoke it -Thunder, March 18, 2010
Jeff


fu don't kung think

posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:51 PM
Quote from Anzura on 1/7/2009 at 9:39 PM:
I'm a slow ass runner.


Your comments about your own running are harsher than anything that has been said on this thread.

Your description of your attitude towards running and racing does not seem to jibe with any of the characteristics of someone who is in the marathon "just to finish." So, I don't understand why you think people would lump you in with a "just finish boom." Unless it's just perception that people who are fast or experienced must look down their noses on slower people or on beginning runners.
posted: 1/7/2009 at 9:59 PM
Quote from Jeff on 1/7/2009 at 9:51 PM:
Your comments about your own running are harsher than anything that has been said on this thread.

Nah, that's not harsh. I want to be faster. I like running faster, but it huuuuurts!

Quote from Jeff on 1/7/2009 at 9:51 PM:
Unless it's just perception that people who are fast or experienced must look down their noses on slower people or on beginning runners.

Well duh! Of course that's it. You are all a bunch of elite ass holes that I totally admire and follow a lot of the advice that you give. It's all about earning respect of those you look up to.
posted: 1/7/2009 at 10:02 PM
Quote from Anzura on 1/7/2009 at 9:59 PM:
Well duh! Of course that's it. You are all a bunch of elite ass holes that I totally admire and follow a lot of the advice that you give. It's all about earning respect of those you look up to.


I've met some of these idiots. It's so not worth it.
Amy
posted: 1/7/2009 at 10:11 PM
Quote from Dragon76 on 1/7/2009 at 10:02 PM:
I've met some of these idiots. It's so not worth it.


Awww shucks. That's kind of a compliment to all the people you haven't met yet. Thanks so much.
"Good-looking people have no spine. Their art never lasts. They get the girls, but we're smarter." - Lester Bangs
jEfFgObLuE


posted: 1/7/2009 at 10:19 PM
Quote from Lank on 1/7/2009 at 10:11 PM:
Awww shucks. That's kind of a compliment to all the people you haven't met yet. Thanks so much.


Glad I'm not the only one who took it that way.
20th Century: Is ancient history
21st Century: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00
Jeff


fu don't kung think

posted: 1/7/2009 at 10:21 PM
Quote from Anzura on 1/7/2009 at 9:59 PM:
Nah, that's not harsh. I want to be faster. I like running faster, but it huuuuurts!

Well duh! Of course that's it. You are all a bunch of elite ass holes that I totally admire and follow a lot of the advice that you give. It's all about earning respect of those you look up to.


Aww shucks. Keep runnin' Anzura.


hydration is important

posted: 1/7/2009 at 10:49 PM
I need those big goals to keep from being complacent...especially when the weather goes all to shit, as it's wont to do this time of year in these parts. It would be too easy otherwise to make all those excuses that dogged me all of my pre-running life. One of the biggest frustrations for me since starting this nearly 3 years ago was my DNS due to the flu last Spring. Seems there's little that irks me more than paying for and preparing for a race, only to have something out of my control keep me from the start. Training consistently is the one thing I CAN control.

The bonus of plugging away the miles in an effort to finish the longer distances strong is that I automatically am that much faster at the short distances--without any specific training. After tackling each distance once I find that I'm not merely ticking the event off on an imaginary bucket list, but I want to come back and better my time for the next go-round and keep registering for new and varied races.
Kirsten
'07: 1324.5 mi
'08: 1561 mi
'09: 1810.9 mi

'10 Goals:

2000k (1243mi.) running
1500 miles biking
1st sprint duathlon (5k run, 30k bike, 5k run)
1st century ride
PRs: 15k, 25k, HM
posted: 1/7/2009 at 11:46 PM
Quote from zoom-zoom on 1/7/2009 at 10:49 PM:
One of the biggest frustrations for me since starting this nearly 3 years ago was my DNS due to the flu last Spring. Seems there's little that irks me more than paying for and preparing for a race, only to have something out of my control keep me from the start.


Oh man! That happened to me on my very first race. I signed up for a 5k after 5 months of running and was really excited about it. My dh picked up my race packet and put it next to me as I was bundled up on the couch with a fever and shivers. I cried.Cry I gave the shirt to my mom. It's the only bib in my small but growing collection that is in pristine condition.