2011 Goal of Sub-3:00 Marathon (Read 8001 times)

    As soon as I am confident I am recovered here I am going to try to institute a BIG life change....force myself to run the majority of my mileage at 5-5:30am so it does not disrupt family life so much.  If I can make the transition, my mileage should increase significantly.

     

    I did the same thing when I made the move into ultras. Got into the habit of rising at 4am, on the trail by 5am, back at the house by 9am, ready to play Daddy by 9:30am. It was tough to begin with but I soon fell into a pattern, and the effort meant a lot to my wife and kids.

      Thanks....assuming training does not get derailed I will be taking the hybrid approach....most of my training will not change but my long runs are going to get interesting.

       

      As soon as I am confident I am recovered here I am going to try to institute a BIG life change....force myself to run the majority of my mileage at 5-5:30am so it does not disrupt family life so much.  If I can make the transition, my mileage should increase significantly.

       

      I read that as "...force myself to run the majority of my mileage at 5-5:30 (min/mile) so it does not disrupt my family life so much..."

       

      Makes way more sense after doing the double take and seeing the "am" and not the "min/mile".

       

      I guess I've got pace on my brain...I looked at my watch yesterday afternoon at work and saw 4:12 and thought: "damn, I wanted to be sub 3" before realizing 4:12 was 4:12pm and I was wearing a cleanroom suit instead of my running gear.

       

      Good luck with your transition!

      DoppleBock


        Either one would do the trick 

         

         

        I read that as "...force myself to run the majority of my mileage at 5-5:30 (min/mile) so it does not disrupt my family life so much..."

         

        Makes way more sense after doing the double take and seeing the "am" and not the "min/mile".

        http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

        2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35  

         

          Best wishes to those running Marine Corps this weekend.  That's a race I'd be interested in doing some day.

           

          One more week left for me.  Everyone doing NYC will probably be finished before I start my race in Fresno.  The weather for me looks close to ideal next week.  What's NY supposed to be?


          Feeling the growl again

            I read that as "...force myself to run the majority of my mileage at 5-5:30 (min/mile) so it does not disrupt my family life so much..."

             

             

             

            Ha, if I was in that kind of shape, I would certainly be rocking my races!

            "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

             


            Are we there yet?

              Either one would do the trick 

               

              LOL! Big grin

               

              Good Luck.. 

               

              RunThinBoyRun -- 30OCT2011 -- Marine Corps (Washington DC)

              Coockie_jr -- 30OCT2011 -- Marine Corps (Washington DC)

               

              My buddy from the club Caleb Boyd is running for a sub3 bid as well... #9392. Brrrrilliant!

                Success for my first marathon \0/ Smile

                2:51:25

                  Success for my first marathon \0/ Smile

                  2:51:25

                   

                  Congrats!  Is your log accurate, i.e. did you really run a 2:51 with your biggest week being less than 40 miles???  That is pretty impressive.

                    Tahlgren - will keep an eye out for you.  I'll be in a bright yellow Wellington Scottish singlet.  

                     

                    Final decision is that I won't be attempting a sub 3, will be hoping for something around 3.05-3.10 given how everything has gone.  But I will be back to try again next year.  

                     

                    I dunno what i'll be wearing. Eek, 7 days.

                     

                     

                      Congrats!  Is your log accurate, i.e. did you really run a 2:51 with your biggest week being less than 40 miles???  That is pretty impressive.

                       

                      Yup, looks a bit careless to me but at least I know how to improve for the next one Big grin (Although I am super delighted about this first marathon Smile )

                      gilbertlemieux


                        Just ran a tune-up 1/2 in anticipation of my sub-3:00 attempt at Philly on November 20th.  For those of you who have already done this, what time for the 1/2 would you say makes you confident of being ready to go sub-3:00 in the full?

                        DoppleBock


                          It depends on your mileage and how much you tapered for the 1/2

                           

                          I have ran 2x my 1/2M time 5 weeks later - But I usually am good for 2x 1/2M + 4 minutes

                           

                          ex) 1:27 x 2 = 2:54 + 4 = 2:58

                           

                          I think the worst I have done was

                           

                          2x 1/2M + 5 minutes

                           

                          If you are a lower mileage guy - I think most around here would like to be 1:25, but have been successful with 1:26 1/2M times

                           

                          My 1st marathon was off avg 60MPW and was a 2:56 off a 1:26 1/2M time.

                           

                          So after rambling - I think

                           

                          1:25 - In like Flyn

                          1:26 - Solid for success

                          1:27 - Go for it - Riding the line

                          1:28 - If you are a high mileage freak

                           

                          Just ran a tune-up 1/2 in anticipation of my sub-3:00 attempt at Philly on November 20th.  For those of you who have already done this, what time for the 1/2 would you say makes you confident of being ready to go sub-3:00 in the full?

                          http://a-big-horse.blogspot.com/ 

                          2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35  

                           


                          Feeling the growl again

                            It depends on your mileage and how much you tapered for the 1/2

                             

                            I have ran 2x my 1/2M time 5 weeks later - But I usually am good for 2x 1/2M + 4 minutes

                              

                             

                            +1.

                             

                            Dopple Bock can do 2XHM+4 because he is a long-to-ultra specialist....his HM is not as strong.  This is the reverse of most of us.

                             

                            2XHM+(4-to-6) is a good place to start if your mileage has been relatively high and your training is supporting the marathon well.  If you are <60mpw it's going to be 6 or higher added on.

                             

                            The top world marathoners now have HM PRs of 59:XX or even 58:XX.  Say 59X2-1:58, record is 2:03-hi, or 2XHM+5.5.  You're only going to beat that if you are really adding good fitness between the two, which screws up the predictive value anyways.

                            "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

                             

                              +1.

                               

                              Dopple Bock can do 2XHM+4 because he is a long-to-ultra specialist....his HM is not as strong.  This is the reverse of most of us.

                               

                              2XHM+(4-to-6) is a good place to start if your mileage has been relatively high and your training is supporting the marathon well.  If you are <60mpw it's going to be 6 or higher added on.

                               

                              Even 6 minutes is unusual for non-elite males.  On 60 mpw I'd say the old "double it and add 10 minutes" rule is probably aggressive for most people.

                               

                              The best I've managed within a marathon training cycle is 2 x hm + 9 minutes.

                              Runners run.

                                Just ran a tune-up 1/2 in anticipation of my sub-3:00 attempt at Philly on November 20th.  For those of you who have already done this, what time for the 1/2 would you say makes you confident of being ready to go sub-3:00 in the full?

                                 

                                Along with what those guys said since they are all really fast and have broken 3, but what did you run the 1/2 in? And how did it feel? If you went all out and ran 1:25-1:26 I'm not sure if sub 3 would be there. But if you ran 1:25 and felt good at the end then sub 3 in a month is a realistic goal.