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Pain in lower left side of stomach area?" (groin) (Read 135 times)

flatfootruns


    I have pain in my lower left side of my stomach...no idea what it is...can't put a finger on it, so it must be deep...it's not an inguinal hernia, all guts are intact...I feel it as soon as i start running and subsides after about a 1/2 mile or so...i think it happen over time because i had a problem around a month ago with leg lifts on that side and though it was quad related...i feel it when i'm squatted down and bent over to tie my shoes also...any help will be appreciated...

    Tim_Easterday


      Maybe a psoas issue? I had a strained psoas this year and it took many ART sessions to get back to normal. I also had pain from the hip labrum at the same time - could be another thing to check. A sports MD initially thought it could be a inguinal hernia but the ART therapist quickly zeroed in on the labrum, psoas, and another issue with my adductor (I fell hard on solid wet rock while hiking and that really messed up everything around my hip). I would look up an ART (active release therapy) specialist. Best thing I ever did!


      Future running partner.

        Sounds similar to what I encountered last year. It was a lower ab muscle strain that took me almost a year to get over. It was very deep in my abdomen which made it difficult to pinpoint. We ruled out a hernia because of how the pain would go away with rest but as I would start running again it would come back. Also doing ab work around it would seem to help it. What really cured it was when I started seeing a PT. She was able to press down real hard into my stomach, to the point where she was pushing in about 3 or 4" in and could pin point the knots that had formed in my ab muscles. She had me doing all kinds of ab work around the strained muscles along with some very careful light ab work directly on the muscles. Doing the work on the specific muscles required some care in only doing what I was capable of with pain levels at a 1 or less. Also we found that by massaging the knots before exercising I was able to do more strenuous ab work with less pain. That really helped. Since then I regularly do about 5 to 10 minutes of core work three times a week. I do notice that when I don't do core work for a while that the strain starts to come back around when I run. But when I stick to that bit of core work my pain levels are usually about a 1 or less.


        Ostrich runner

          Maybe you need to take a dump before you run.

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            I've had the same thing. Also had it (professionally) checked to make sure there was no hernia. Definitely inhibited any kind of core work; I do yoga, and there were some things I just could not do. And would cause pain just rolling over in bed a certain way. But like yours, felt it at the beginning of a run, then went away pretty quickly. I assumed it was some kind of abdominal muscle strain. Had it twice in the last couple years, never figured exactly what triggered it, but took several months to heal both times. Total PITA, but I am grateful for any medical condition that does not interfere with running.

            Dave

              What Tim stated is probably what you have (strained Psoas) and you need to get checked out by a good PT. I had a strained Psoas (hip flexor) on my left side two years ago that took 4-5 months to go away. I currently am dealing with a strained Psoas (hip flexor) on right side that hit on Labor Day (this was much worse and felt like someone stuck a knife about 1.5" to the inside of right hip). That muscle is deep and when strained it feels like a hernia. The hip flexor pulls/brings your leg up so any activity such a sprinting, hopping, box steps, leg lifts are going to stress that muscle. The muscle goes down along the groin area and attaches the knee (so its very common when you get the pain in the hip area to also get pain in the upper groin area). The fact that you have pain for 4-5 minutes and then subsides means that you have not strained it too badly yet and thus if you treat it quickly your not going to be dealing with it for months. Icing will really help this (post-run).

              Rob

              flatfootruns


                Maybe you need to take a dump before you run.

                 

                Palease...what did you just start running, who doesn't take a big dump before they run in the morning, i don't need to be 2 miles from my house and have to take a big shit on your front steps...ha!

                flatfootruns


                  Maybe a psoas issue? I had a strained psoas this year and it took many ART sessions to get back to normal. I also had pain from the hip labrum at the same time - could be another thing to check. A sports MD initially thought it could be a inguinal hernia but the ART therapist quickly zeroed in on the labrum, psoas, and another issue with my adductor (I fell hard on solid wet rock while hiking and that really messed up everything around my hip). I would look up an ART (active release therapy) specialist. Best thing I ever did!

                   

                  Thanks Tim, i think you're right "psoas" another muscle i'm learning about because of running (and racing) ...as soon as i looked it up, found the knee to the groung lunge type stretch "bingo" that hurts...I'll do my own PT for a week or 2 and see how it goes...thx

                  flatfootruns


                    What Tim stated is probably what you have (strained Psoas) and you need to get checked out by a good PT. I had a strained Psoas (hip flexor) on my left side two years ago that took 4-5 months to go away. I currently am dealing with a strained Psoas (hip flexor) on right side that hit on Labor Day (this was much worse and felt like someone stuck a knife about 1.5" to the inside of right hip). That muscle is deep and when strained it feels like a hernia. The hip flexor pulls/brings your leg up so any activity such a sprinting, hopping, box steps, leg lifts are going to stress that muscle. The muscle goes down along the groin area and attaches the knee (so its very common when you get the pain in the hip area to also get pain in the upper groin area). The fact that you have pain for 4-5 minutes and then subsides means that you have not strained it too badly yet and thus if you treat it quickly your not going to be dealing with it for months. Icing will really help this (post-run).

                     

                    yes, i think tim is right ...thx

                      I had the same problem earlier this year.  It hurt at the beginning of the run and eventually felt more comfortable later in the run.  I didn't see a doctor or PT about it.  It eventually got better, but it took months, not weeks.

                        I get a similar pain every year when it starts to get cold (because I get lazy with my warmups when its warm).  I have never isolated whether its psoas or lower abdominal (the pain is kinda generic).  Here's what helps me and what I should probably do all year.

                         

                        1) Active stretches before the run (leg swings, etc.)

                        1a) the dump thing of course

                        2) Really holding myself to not going out too fast (hard for me)

                        3) When it's cold and windy - wear windproof undies so the muscles in the area (and my man bits) stay warm

                        4) light stretching of the area when finished

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