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"I've been following Eddy's improvement over the last two years on this site, and it's been pretty dang solid. Sure the weekly mileage has been up and down, but over the long haul he's getting out the door and has turned himself into quite a runner. He's only now just figuring out his potential. Consistency in running is measured in years, not weeks. And over the last couple of years, Eddy's made great strides" Jeff 14 Jan 2009
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RT Basic Marathon Program
RT Advanced Marathon Program
Lydiard's Marathon Guide
Yes, I know the Basic Program isn't 6 months. But you can figure out what you need to build up to for the actual plan and use that as a starting point for the first 12 weeks.
RT Basic Marathon Program RT Advanced Marathon Program Lydiard's Marathon Guide Yes, I know the Basic Program isn't 6 months. But you can figure out what you need to build up to for the actual plan and use that as a starting point for the first 12 weeks.
Thanks, I will be going for the advanced one, good plan.
Eddy:
Good to see you back. Lydiard program is actually for 6 months--24 weeks. It is, however, a very basic training program but we (Lorraine Moller, Dick Brown and myself) are putting together more marathon specific program for our website (hopefully to be available soon). If you're interested (and, as Purdey know, once I figure out how to print it out), I can send you the basic program specific to your ability (I'll base it on your current 5k PR) and it'll show "suggested" pace for every single workout. It also shows priority for week's workout so as to show, if necessary, which one to skip. I don't know how to attach via RA e-mail so shoot me an e-mail if you're interested: nobby415@msn.com
Eddy: Good to see you back. Lydiard program is actually for 6 months--24 weeks. It is, however, a very basic training program but we (Lorraine Moller, Dick Brown and myself) are putting together more marathon specific program for our website (hopefully to be available soon). If you're interested (and, as Purdey know, once I figure out how to print it out), I can send you the basic program specific to your ability (I'll base it on your current 5k PR) and it'll show "suggested" pace for every single workout. It also shows priority for week's workout so as to show, if necessary, which one to skip. I don't know how to attach via RA e-mail so shoot me an e-mail if you're interested: nobby415@msn.com
mailed you Nobby. Cheers
I sent you the schedule to your hotmail address. Do you want it @ other one too?
Eddy: I sent you the schedule to your hotmail address. Do you want it @ other one too?
Yeah please that would be great. Be able to read it now in work/
Done. By the way, I checked your log and noticed, though you had done a 2:20 run, you're a bit short on long runs. So I plugged in the starting point as 100-minutes long run instead of 120. Send me your feedback.
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I would love to get my hands on that. Recently, I have been looking into what Greg McMillan has done and like it. I have also read the article from Arthur Lydiard about how to set up a marathon training plan but would love to get more specifics. My target race is in August, so in April and May I would like to get up to the 100 mile week he describes and then work on hills/speed. My email is rjstraughen@gmail.com. If you don't want to send, that's fine, but no harm in asking
Rick:
Sent. Bear in mind, I just used a bogus date of October, starting in May; so if you adust it for August marathon, you should be able to easily shift it to starting March. Oh, heck (I know I'm being lazy); if you want me to, just shoot me the actual date of the race and I'll change it and re-send for ya.
Ennay:
Any time.
Resent. I just picked the bogus date as 8/29/10; then if you start tomorrow, you'll have exactly 24 weeks! Good luck, man! ;o)
Thanks, I think when I emailed you I said I had slightly over 24 weeks, although in reality I have about 21. Either way I have been running quite a bit the last couple of weeks, so I hope to pick up there.
"This looks amazing." Rick, this is what you should have posted here!! ;o)
With your background of training, it shouldn't be any problem to just jump in from "21 weeks to go" and missing 3 weeks of conditioning and just carry on.
We are, in fact, working on different version for any distances less than half marathon; 12 weeks up to 24 weeks. For marathon, we feel 24 weeks is adequate. However, I'm sure people would just jump in and would like to get ready for, say, a 5k race with 12 weeks to go. We didn't want to just cut a certain weeks. We will be working on getting 2 case cenarios; "More than 5 years of training background" and "Less than 5 years of training background". For each, the ratio of cut-backs are different. For example, if you only have, say, 20 weeks, for those who have had more than 5 years of background, we'll cut back conditioning and move on because we figured they have done enough aerobic running under the belt. On the other hand, if they have less than 5 years of background, we try to maintain the length of conditioning as much as possible and cut back, say, intervals from 4 weeks down to 2...something like that.
By the way, I think I originally gave you a schedule with the longest comfortable run being 100 minutes. I think you should be able to handle 120 minutes (which I did with the revised one). Your log didn't really show but it looks like you've done a few 26-milers???
First, let me quote myself from the email I sent you.
"This looks amazing!"
I have run 12 marathons, but 10 of them were before I kept a log here. I ran in high school and college and ran my best marathon (2:37) about 5 years ago. I have always been better at the longer distances and I am trying to rededicate myself to running. Unfortunately, I did not keep a log at that time, although I do have some idea of what I did. My best guess is that I did between 60 and 70 miles per week, but I have been able to handle 90-100 mile weeks in the past.
I currently run most of my endurance runs just under 7:00 pace, and that generally feels pretty comfortable. I really like the excel schedule, although I'm a little nervous about the paces. I will probably keep my same pace while adding the mileage and as that becomes easier I will gradually work my pace down.
Thanks for sharing information in all of your many posts. There are so many names in training and although I had heard of Arthur Lydiard, I was unaware of this training methods. His phases seem to suit my abilities the best. I really like having a strong base before starting to really work on speed. I'm looking forward to getting some quality training in.
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