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| Bringing down cholesterol (Read 717 times) |
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posted: 5/31/2008 at 4:40 PM |
| Quote from t_runner on 5/31/2008 at 12:51 PM: Cholesterol was my only test. She wants to see me in three months and see where the numbers are, and then do further tests as needed...
My advise is to research what tests are important for heart disease prevention / identification and be prepared to tell her what you want. Chances are good she will do them anyhow but some docs (just like us) get set in ways. These folks are so busy anymore that you need to be your own best advocate in case they are having an off day  |
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posted: 5/31/2008 at 5:00 PM
modified: 5/31/2008 at 5:02 PM |
| Quote from t_runner on 5/31/2008 at 12:49 PM:
Trent - just out of curiousity, if statins are really safe, why would my doctor say she doesn't normally prescribe for women of childbearing age? Is there some harm to a fetus if the mother is on them? Like I said earlier, I wasn't planning on having children anyway, I was just curious. At what cholesterol point would you personally take them?
Since trent didnt answer this is what I know: Cholesterol is necessary for hormone production, and brain and organ development. Pretty much any kind of drug/herb that lowers cholesterol should be avoided. During pg a woman's cholesterol can increase significantly
There is at this point loose correlation between statins and birthdefects
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posted: 5/31/2008 at 5:25 PM
modified: 5/31/2008 at 6:18 PM |
Sorry, t_runner, I missed that question. 
Here is the deal. There are a few reasons why you may not get a statin during pregnancy even though they may be safe in other settings:
1. Statins are tested in nonpregnant adults. Within that group, they have been found to be very very safe, both in premarketing and postmarketing testing (with the exception of a couple drugs that have since been removed from the market. It is impossible to know if a drug that is safe in nonpregnant adults is also safe in pregnant women. Or in children. To know if it is safe among those other groups, it needs to be tested in them as well. Rather than assume it is safe, your doctor and the FDA generally take the path of highest caution. Drug companies generally do not have incentives to test drugs in these populations as the risk (medical and legal) is very very high and the market fairly limited. Many drugs are very very safe in nonpregnant adults and unsafe or untested in pregnancy.
2. Treating high cholesterol (and high blood pressure, generally) is something you do every day to prevent the accumulated effect of high cholesterol on your arteries. As it takes years of high cholesterol to cause problems, it takes years of treatment to reverse the effects of high cholesterol. Taking a few months off during pregnancy is a drop in the bucket when compared to the years of treatment, and is low risk.
3. Most high cholesterol occurs as we age, and most people with high cholesterol tend to develop it after childbearing. Many docs won't even start checking unless you have a family history until sometime in the mid 30s or later.
4. What Ennay said. High cholesterol may actually be beneficial in pregnancy.
5. When nursing, cholesterol tends to plummet naturally as it is all funneled into breast milk.
So, you cannot assume that a drug is not safe in nonpregnant adults just because it is not safe during pregnancy. |
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posted: 5/31/2008 at 9:10 PM |
Quote from HoosierDaddy on 5/31/2008 at 4:40 PM:My advise is to research what tests are important for heart disease prevention / identification and be prepared to tell her what you want. Chances are good she will do them anyhow but some docs (just like us) get set in ways. These folks are so busy anymore that you need to be your own best advocate in case they are having an off day
Thanks, that is good advice. My doctor, although I like her, always seems a tad rushed. I was about to be shoved out the door this year after my physical when I asked her when I should think about getting my cholesterol checked because of my family history.. and that of course led to all this! |
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posted: 5/31/2008 at 9:13 PM |
| Quote from Trent on 5/31/2008 at 5:25 PM: So, you cannot assume that a drug is not safe in nonpregnant adults just because it is not safe during pregnancy.
Thanks Trent, your information was very helpful. I am wondering if I am being irrationally fearful of the drugs.. I guess I will really have to see what my diet changes do, any other tests the doctor does, and what she thinks...
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posted: 10/10/2008 at 2:54 PM |
| Quote from t_runner on 5/22/2008 at 2:20 PM:
Total was 266
HDL - 78
LDL - 172
Since everybody was so helpful when I first posted, I wanted to give an update on my results - I was pleasantly surprised by how much I was able to lower in just a few months with dietary changes.
My new numbers:
Total is 244
HDL - 76
LDL - 149
Tri - 93
I've lost about 5 lbs since then, and basically just accelerated my trend towards real food, away from processed food, and incorporating more vegetables and whole grains. I still drink 2% milk, but non-homogenized from a local dairy. I buy my eggs from a local farm. I cook a lot more of my own meals now. Of course I have my bad days too, but I have been enjoying what I cook so much, I actually don't have as much of a taste for junk food from the vending machine. And of course, I also have to bring this number down more, but I am pretty happy with the results in just 5 months.
Now if only I could solve my stupid arch pain that keeps me from running as much as I would like...
Thanks all for the support and help initially.
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posted: 10/10/2008 at 4:35 PM |
| Sweet, that is the right direction! Keep it up! What was the time interval between those two tests? |
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posted: 10/10/2008 at 4:42 PM |
| Quote from Trent on 10/10/2008 at 4:35 PM: Sweet, that is the right direction! Keep it up! What was the time interval between those two tests?
Thanks! It was just under 5 months... |
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