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Help! I'm Stuck. (Read 2594 times)

srlopez

Derrr

posted: 9/29/2008 at 10:34 PM
modified: 9/29/2008 at 10:39 PM

Quote from fatozzig on 9/29/2008 at 9:29 PM:

Well, Nobby seems to be saying something along the same lines, unless I am misinterpreting him, and he seems to have achieved positive results for himself, his wife, and his athletes. Dunno . . .

I'm not saying that nobby or your coach are "wrong" or providing bad advice.

I'm merely saying that if I followed the advice of your coach, I wouldn't be doing the things that I like to do. That's all. I seem to recover just fine from runs that are longer than 3 hours. And I know a lot of runners, people I consider fast runners, medium runners, and not fast runners, who do as well.

(As an aside, I have also participated in many marathons and triathlons and am a certified trainer. My experience is different from other people's experience. That doesn't make me "wrong" either... for my specific instance and for my goals. Nobby and others have helped out numerous people and are wise, and that's all goodness.)

Jeff

fu don't kung think

posted: 9/29/2008 at 10:42 PM
modified: 9/29/2008 at 10:44 PM

Quote from srlopez on 9/29/2008 at 10:34 PM:

You should have clarified this in your post. Obviously, you have different goals (which you have stated elsewhere) than the runners who were seeking advice on this thread. There are, obviously, other legitimate lenses through which running can be seen, but if you're changing lenses, then some indication of the new frame of reference would be valuable.

MTA: Okay, I wrote this before your modifications, which help to clarify. Sorry.

The Logic of Long Distance

srlopez

Derrr

posted: 9/29/2008 at 10:47 PM

Quote from Jeff on 9/29/2008 at 10:42 PM:

I did modify the post, sorry for not doing that before I originally posted.

But the "elsewhere" is... earlier in this same thread. So it seems fairly self contained to this discussion.

When I read something like "the body does not..." what I hear in my brain is a fellow trainer presenting something as a universal-something that may not exactly be universal. Everyone is different.

Jeff

fu don't kung think

posted: 9/29/2008 at 10:50 PM

Quote from srlopez on 9/29/2008 at 10:47 PM:

But the "elsewhere" is... earlier in this same thread.

This is true. Good point.

I also agree that everyone is different, but I don't think that anyone here understands themselves to be making universal claims; at our best, we are speaking, like you, from personal experience.

The Logic of Long Distance

fatozzig

Neighbor Lady

posted: 9/30/2008 at 1:57 AM

Quote from Jeff on 9/29/2008 at 10:50 PM:

. . . at our best, we are speaking, like you, from personal experience.

And I, for one, could definitely use more experience, Smile

so very much appreciate taking in other people's perspectives.

(Cripes! It took me 3 times to try and get this to post. Too bad it isn't more profound. Big grin

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Leslie
Living and Running Behind the Redwood Curtain
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"Do it! Throw yourself at it and smash it into oblivion. Do NOT think for one second that it's bigger than you, that it requires a level of badassery that you don't have. Shatter it... and trample the pieces!"

2010 Goals: 02/20-Hagg Lake 50k, 04/10-AR50, 09/11-McKenzie Forest 50k, Oct-Whiskeytown 50k, Dec-Desert High 50k

AmoresPerros

Run Stupider

posted: 4/26/2009 at 3:29 AM

I found one article on Kouros' training & outlook on training

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=7582

It's ... different than anything I've read before. He attributes primacy to mental focus and detachment, and apparently trains short stuff ,using races for long runs.

Of course, maybe he is different from ordinary people.

The chair is EVIL. EVIL!!

AmoresPerros

Run Stupider

posted: 12/23/2009 at 2:43 AM

PS: Kouros uses his races as long runs, he says there (allegedly) -- so in that way he is like srlopez. I'm sure Kouros races far fewer races (albeit the ones he does are probably mostly at very high intensity level).

The chair is EVIL. EVIL!!

Mariposai

Marathon Maniac #1109

posted: 12/23/2009 at 3:01 AM

the heck with coaches. Just do what your heart tells you to do. Push yourself...you are an athlete after all. Push to your limit...then back off for a week...to then push the limit again...

Pushing the limit goes with miles, speed and race distances...what the heck...we all have only one life to live and we are NOT going to be Olympians after all. So just run to your heart's content!!!!!

Running compliments my being

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