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Running and raw food diet (Read 546 times)

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Quote from jEfFgObLuE on 7/30/2008 at 8:27 PM:
This looks suspiciously likes one of those fake question / answer threads. I'm suspicious anytime a thread opens up with two no-profile, no-log people that I've never seen post before.


Yep. I already raised that suspicion to the webmaster the other day. One person with no profile, memorable posting history or public log asked a particularly niche question, and within a very short period, somebody else with no profile, memorable posting history or public log had a solution. For sale. Online. It looks like a fairly classic setup.

Raw food may be a reasonable way to eat. But the way it is epoused in the book linked in the thread is somewhat wacko and fear-mongering. The poster and the book make raw food seem as scientific as the processed foods it replaces (themselves the product of food science research).

Quote from Scout7 on 7/30/2008 at 8:39 PM:
Any science behind any of this?.


Yes. Studies conclusively show that people who eat cooked food have a 100% lifetime mortality rate.
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Quote from ʇuǝɹʇ on 7/30/2008 at 8:46 PM:
Yes. Studies conclusively show that people who eat cooked food have a 100% lifetime mortality rate.


Dude, I hear you cackle with glee everytime you get to use this punchline. Sadly, I laugh, as well.
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Quote from ʇuǝɹʇ on 7/30/2008 at 8:01 PM:
Pizza, on crust, is NOT raw. Bread and pasta is out.



Fixed.


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Quote from DrewEOB on 7/30/2008 at 8:56 PM:
Sadly, I laugh, as well.


100% of the people that laugh at that stupid joke die.
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Quote from jEfFgObLuE on 7/30/2008 at 9:03 PM:
100% of the people that laugh at that stupid joke die.


Its like the rick roll of health answers.
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Actually, I am serious. Here is a link to the study. It is in PubMed Central:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17947616
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Quote from ʇuǝɹʇ on 7/31/2008 at 12:55 AM:
Actually, I am serious. Here is a link to the study. It is in PubMed Central:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17947616


Wow... I can't believe they conducted a whole study on that. Pretty interesting though...

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Quote from cgerber on 7/31/2008 at 1:11 AM:
Wow... I can't believe they conducted a whole study on that. Pretty interesting though...


Yep.

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Think about important studies like this when you consider your politician's priorities this November. Studies like this show that we can be the scientific powerhouse we were in generations past.
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Quote from ʇuǝɹʇ on 7/30/2008 at 8:01 PM:
Pizza, on crust, is NOT raw. Bread and pasta is out.



Fixed.


All or nothing. Roll eyes

Fixed? Never in a million years.
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Actually I have read (sorry I don't know where) that cooking vegetables can cause loss of some nutrients. So could that be where Raw-ist are going with that?
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Cooking reduces some nutrients and makes others available to the body. Unless you overcook your veggies, it is a wash.
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Quote from ʇuǝɹʇ on 7/30/2008 at 8:46 PM:
Yep. I already raised that suspicion to the webmaster the other day. One person with no profile, memorable posting history or public log asked a particularly niche question, and within a very short period, somebody else with no profile, memorable posting history or public log had a solution. For sale. Online. It looks like a fairly classic setup.

Raw food may be a reasonable way to eat. But the way it is epoused in the book linked in the thread is somewhat wacko and fear-mongering. The poster and the book make raw food seem as scientific as the processed foods it replaces (themselves the product of food science research).



Yes. Studies conclusively show that people who eat cooked food have a 100% lifetime mortality rate.


Just because I don't have my profile and log available for all to see does not make me a suspicious character. Quite the contrary. I am a vegetarian. Not as strict as I used to be. I do eat dairy. No meat whatsoever. However, I have always been intrigued by a raw food diet. I am also a runner that will be training for my second marathon shortly. Thus, I was looking for information on how a raw food diet may affect my training and if a marathon could even be done on a raw food diet. I did not know that book existed until the response showed up.

I am quite sorry that I raised your suspicions enough that you felt the need to contact the webmaster. It was certainly not my intention. But thanks for your positive feedbback.
Quote from mb197314 on 7/31/2008 at 4:51 PM:


I am quite sorry that I raised your suspicions enough that you felt the need to contact the webmaster. It was certainly not my intention. But thanks for your positive feedbback.


It wasn't you alone - it was the fact that just an hour later another comment pops up .... from another no name no log person actually SELLING something related to your question.

That's happened before. More than once.

Poster A: Hey, guys, I spilled Gu on my carpet and I can't get it out. Oh, shucks.

Poster B quickly replies: Hey - I once had that problem, but I went to www.GetGuOut.com and for only $12.99 per six-pack, purchased RonCo's amazing and award-winning Gu-B-Gone! It changed my life! You should check it out!

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I guess now I know not to respond promptly to posts. And for crying out loud, I'm not selling the book, I just read it recently and found it to be a good resource that answers the poster's question.
Quote from mb197314 on 7/28/2008 at 7:49 PM:
Can one be a runner and eat a mostly raw food diet? Would they be able to get enough carbs, fats, etc to maintain a marathon training plan?



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http://www.rawguru.com/uncooking.html



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Cooking is universal among humans. In every society, a hot meal in the evening is universal and central to family life.

Despite claims by proponents of so-called "raw food" diets -- that all natural nutrition is raw and all primates thrive on raw food -- animals actually show a preference for cooked plant foods. Monkeys and chimps have been observed taking advantage of fire, either by putting things in it to change the texture or by searching out cooked seeds after a forest fire.

Unfortunately, Wrangham says, past work in archaeology and anthropology downplayed cooking as symbolic or unimportant. Since so much of the food we eat -- even meat -- is edible and digestible raw, no one has given much time to studying why we cook it.

The fact is, according to Wrangham, as we have evolved, we lost the ability to survive on raw food alone.

Chimps eat raw meat. But it takes five hours to chew enough raw meat to reach 2,000 calories. It takes one hour to get that much nutrition from cooked meat.

Our digestive systems are smaller and shaped differently than a chimp's, so we need nutrition we can digest rapidly. Even more intriguing: Our mouths are smaller, and we can't open them as wide as chimps, so we need food that is less bulky. Cooked food is smaller than raw food.

Smaller jaws mean more room for bigger brains.

And here's the really interesting part: No one has ever figured out why one branch of prehistoric primates suddenly came down out of the trees, stood upright and got bigger.

Homo erectus may have just been the first short-order cook.

Cooked food delivers more nutrition in less time, freeing us to do all kinds of things, like hunt, plant and eventually invent the drive-through lane.

"Changes wrought by cooking," says Wrangham, "can be thought of as one of the greatest improvements in the history of life, if not the greatest."

Wave a spoon with your opposable thumb if you agree: Cooking was the dawn of civilization.

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