Paul Ryan Says He’s Run Sub-3:00 Marathon (Read 1924 times)

DoppleBock


    As a runner I am turned off

     

    As a citizen on the political end - I do not care.  If you take all 4 men and look at anytime they have either failed to keep promises or misled with either an outright lie or a half truth (Just the part of the story they wanted you to hear) - I really do not believe there is any significant difference in character.

     

    I think it comes down to what they say they will do with the 4 years in office - If you believe they will actually work on what they say they will do and if they work on it - Can they deliver.

     

    I think its more important to look at campaign promises during their work in offices and the delivery on those promises.  What have they actually accomplished.  Instead we often get caught up in all these pie in the sky campaign ideology promises that we all know they will never be able to deliver.  If we all know its bullshit and yet we swollow the bullshit - Shame on us.

    Long dead ... But my stench lingers !

     

     

    HCH


      Unfortunately, this is just distracting us from the important issues. Like whether or not Paul Ryan has actually scaled 40 of Colorado's 14'ers.

       

      MTA: DoppleBack said it much better in a less snarky way. (Although I am starting to wonder if Paul Ryan is a pathological liar in the clinical sense.)

      Only 26.2 miles more to go.

      DoppleBock


        The US is in a pretty shaky place - The deficeit is high enough, the growth is not there, housing and lending still ugly.  We are only a few steps from the brink.  The world economy is a step or 2 closer.  These are perilous times.  The choices we make in this election could mean more than any other.  But I also feel like neither party is courageous enough (Maybe smart enough) to make much of a difference at this point.  Maybe things will workout the same no matter who we elect and our decision is not that important.

         

        But my mindset is it does matter more this year than ever and as I said earlier - I need to evaluate not from campaign promises, but from past actions and ability to deliver results.

         

        I would suggest each of us spends the time to analyze what the President has done not only in the last 4 years, but his whole political career - What actions he has taken - What results he has helped acheive.  Then take some time on the Republican challenger and do the same.  These are the 2 most important people to analyze.  If you still have time - Look deeply into the VP and VP candidate's policitcal past.

         

        These will be gold nuggets amounts all the bullshit slung at us in the next few months.  The next few months are actually meaningless noise to distract us or to trick us to vote for or not vote for someone.

         

        Past performance is a much better predictor of future performance -

         

        Ask any wife - The probability to significantly "Change" you husband ... is pretty small.

        Long dead ... But my stench lingers !

         

         


        Feeling the growl again

            But I also feel like neither party is courageous enough (Maybe smart enough) to make much of a difference at this point.   

           

          The scarier part is that to a large extent, their behavior is being driven by the voters.  So maybe is is really us (collectively) who are nor courageous enough or smart enough to push up and elect the leaders we need?

          "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

           

          I am spaniel - Crusher of Treadmills

           


          Why is it sideways?

            I would suggest each of us spends the time to analyze what the President has done not only in the last 4 years, but his whole political career - What actions he has taken - What results he has helped acheive. 

             

            Here ya go. Smile


            Feeling the growl again

              Here ya go. Smile

               

              Blocked as "Category: pornography".  I guess that explains the smiley face.

               

              Geez, thanks Jeff.

              "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

               

              I am spaniel - Crusher of Treadmills

               


              Why is it sideways?

                AmoresPerros


                Options,Account, Forums

                  Here ya go. Smile

                   

                  Terrible website. You have to turn on scripting, and then click each bullet point to get to the next, with no idea if it will ever get to anything related to economic issues?

                  It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

                  DoppleBock


                    This is exactly what I was talking about as far as partial info and smoke - Some of this is important in the big picture some is not.  It puts a bunch of noise out there hoping that they pushed enough psycological buttons to make you vote a certain way.

                     

                    I am thinking something like a top 5 or top 10 scorecard.  A Presidential candidate has to list the top 5-10 things that he/she will accomplish along with the action plans for each.  At the end of the 4 years the same scorecard comes up and he/she has to bridge the plan with actual results.

                     

                    Like one of Obama's top 10 would have been to reduce deficeit - It went the wrong way by $x dollars - Since we knew the material actions be planned to take to meet the goal - When he bridges all the shortfall we could better decide weather the shortfall $y dollars were in his control or not.

                     

                    But crap like this link tells me a media bomb of psycological info only

                    Long dead ... But my stench lingers !

                     

                     

                      This is exactly what I was talking about as far as partial info and smoke - Some of this is important in the big picture some is not.  It puts a bunch of noise out there hoping that they pushed enough psycological buttons to make you vote a certain way.

                       

                      I am thinking something like a top 5 or top 10 scorecard.  A Presidential candidate has to list the top 5-10 things that he/she will accomplish along with the action plans for each.  At the end of the 4 years the same scorecard comes up and he/she has to bridge the plan with actual results.

                       

                      Like one of Obama's top 10 would have been to reduce deficeit - It went the wrong way by $x dollars - Since we knew the material actions be planned to take to meet the goal - When he bridges all the shortfall we could better decide weather the shortfall $y dollars were in his control or not.

                       

                      But crap like this link tells me a media bomb of psycological info only

                       But DB, you asked about what the president/candidate had done.  Also, each page links to a source article (i.e., not just partial info). 

                      "If you have the fire, run..." -John Climacus

                        Although I am starting to wonder if Paul Ryan is a pathological liar in the clinical sense.

                         

                        Every time I think the partisan sniping is done we get these.

                         

                        Although I vote Dem 95% of the time even I know the Dems would not look good if people want to compare VPs on truthfulness about remembering facts and dates and details both trivial and important.  Both look bad.  Let's move on from that angle. 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        xor


                          Vote for Trent in 2012.

                           


                          jfa

                            Wait. I thought we were blaming Trent for all of our problems. Now I should vote for him?

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             


                            Why is it sideways?

                              In case you all didn't notice, the website url is meant to be funny. I am sorry that I did not reply in a fully serious way on a Paul Ryan marathon thread. (That's really what the smiley indicated.)

                               

                              I pretty much disagree with DB's take on concrete policy, etc. I think we elect our presidents based on their vision for the country. The policy flows from the vision, not the other way around. Vision is pretty easy to identify.

                               

                              Romney's vision and character is managerial. I think he would be a good President if the challenges of the country were to maintain some sort of well-established equilibrium.

                               

                              Obama's vision and character is prophetic (he has a tendency to imagine a new future.) I will be voting for him because I think that the primary challenges we face as a country have to do with lack of imagination and the will to experiment into new directions in a shifting global culture. I think he has more imagination than Romney, and I appreciate that (in part) probably because I am an academic.

                               

                              I recognize also that many people will see this in far different ways, partly due to their temperament, partly because they have a totally different vision for the country, partly because people like to argue. I am working on becoming okay with that, but building a democratic temperament as an individual is no easy task -- in fact, to my mind this is a problem that is at least as serious as our economic problems, as it lies at the root of our ability to solve any and every problem.

                               

                              I do not think that the Dems and Republicans actually differ that much in terms of their understanding of the problems we face, but I do think that the candidates differ in the way that they approach these problems and the sort of leadership they provide. 

                               

                              That vague enough for you?


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