A practical application of socialist ideas (Read 1168 times)


Menace to Sobriety

    Meanwhile it is time for me to start screening my caller ID again because the damn political calls have started and soon will reach critical mass.

     

    And I have found it isnt as much fun telling political callers that i am <insert whatever persona would be the polar opposite of their target> as it is telling the door to door church proselytizers that I am wiccan and/or a satanist etc.  and would love to see them at my next ritual.

     

    The circus just rolled out of here after the GOP primary on Sat. Cheers!

    Janie, today I quit my job. And then I told my boss to go f*** himself, and then I blackmailed him for almost sixty thousand dollars. Pass the asparagus.
    MrH


      I'm not one to quit when I'm ahead, but you guys are right.

       

       

      On the Internet, you're never ahead. The only way to win is not to play.

      The process is the goal.

      Men heap together the mistakes of their lives, and create a monster they call Destiny.


      A Saucy Wench

        The circus just rolled out of here after the GOP primary on Sat. Cheers!

         Primaries, and for that matter the presidential election, are over long before they get to me. 

         

        BUT hey...there's still congress. And state legislature.  And the sherrif.  And the judges. 

         

        and the fact that in this state, everything is a voter referendum.  We vote on every piss-ante law that comes along.   I'm not sure why we even have state legislature here except to fight over what is left of the budget after all the designated by law budgetary constraints are addressed.  Pretty much we'd be better off just hiring a few accountants to work it all out.  

        I have become Death, the destroyer of electronic gadgets

         

        "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7


        A Dance with Monkeys

          WOULD YOU PEOPLE STOP MIXING UP "JEALOUS" WITH "ENVIOUS"?!?!?!?

           

          CRIPES.


          Feeling the growl again

              

            and the fact that in this state, everything is a voter referendum.  We vote on every piss-ante law that comes along.   I'm not sure why we even have state legislature

            ...

             

            We're headed that way here.  Apparently one party does not understand the role of representative government.

            "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

             


            A Dance with Monkeys

              We're headed that way here.  Apparently one party does not understand the role of representative government.

               

              That's what happens when the elected representatives really don't represent.


              Feeling the growl again

                That's what happens when the elected representatives really don't represent.

                 

                I see.  So whenever your party is in the minority, you just walk out and claim that the party in the majority...put there by voters...is not representing.

                 

                Or, perhaps, you could leave it up to the voters to decide whether their representatives are representing them, by either keeping them in place or replacing them?  Otherwise, why don't we just have a referendum on everything?

                 

                BTW, the only independent survey of the public found that <25% of the public opposes the bill in question.  Seems the public is being represented rather well.

                "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

                 


                just a simple cat

                  WOULD YOU PEOPLE STOP MIXING UP "JEALOUS" WITH "ENVIOUS"?!?!?!?

                   

                  CRIPES.

                   I covet your passion.

                   

                  I  guess as you get more bodacious, you begin to lose more brain cells, because there is a limit to how much magnificence your body can house


                  A Dance with Monkeys

                    I see.  So whenever your party is in the minority, you just walk out and claim that the party in the majority...put there by voters...is not representing.

                     

                    I don't believe I said or implied that.

                      wearing boxers or a robe

                       

                      There's your mistake.

                      Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject.


                      Feeling the growl again

                        I don't believe I said or implied that.

                         

                        You provided your comment to justify those actions.

                         

                        OR....

                         

                        My assumption that you knew what I was talking about was incorrect and my reply made no sense to you.

                         

                        If the latter, your comment makes a lot more sense.  I was purposefully lax on details as we have enough tangents in the thread and I didn't want to go there as we hear enough of it here.  I've been hanging up on the AFL-CIO almost nightly.

                        "If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does.  There's your pep talk for today.  Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

                         

                          I have not, nor will read this thread.  However, I clicked on it because I saw my friend Jeff's name as the last poster.  Jeff...as a friend, I must tell you NOT to post on threads about politics.  Just. Stop. Doing. It. 

                           

                          For the record, I've been enjoying Jeff's posts, and, yeah, the thread has stayed remarkably civil.  So far.

                           

                          MTA:  Tanya is probably standing by, just in case.

                          Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject.


                          HobbyJogger & HobbyRacer

                            You'll never get me to buy into the fact that partisanship is the fault of one party.  You can argue "well they did it first", but that won't get us anywhere.  When my kids would get into an argument one would say "he or she started it.".  My response was "I don't care, you're both doing it now.".  I blame both parties equally.

                             

                            It's not easy, moving to bipartisanship.  I think that the thing that makes it toughest on both sides is the grief that you get from your own party when you try moving toward the middle.

                             

                            So no matter what either side does, the other side is also to blame? That seems surprisingly ethically dubious..

                             

                            If one kid beats the other, and the victim complains, and the aggressor says that the victim started it, then you hold both to blame?

                             

                            At least at first blush, that seems as ethically questionable as blaming rape victims for inviting it by their choice of clothing or choosing to walk outside at night?

                             

                             

                            (I'm surprised, because I've seen you post on politics and ethics, and usually you make sense to me. I think I must be misunderstanding this, or missing some important caveats here -- maybe you mean this only applies to non-physical actions or something.)

                            It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.


                            Fast is better than long

                              So no matter what either side does, the other side is also to blame? That seems surprisingly ethically dubious..

                               

                              If one kid beats the other, and the victim complains, and the aggressor says that the victim started it, then you hold both to blame?

                               

                              At least at first blush, that seems as ethically questionable as blaming rape victims for inviting it by their choice of clothing or choosing to walk outside at night?

                               

                               

                              (I'm surprised, because I've seen you post on politics and ethics, and usually you make sense to me. I think I must be misunderstanding this, or missing some important caveats here -- maybe you mean this only applies to non-physical actions or something.)

                               

                              I think there was an underlying implication in his case:

                              I'm doing this because you started it, but regardless of who started it both parties eventually became active participants.

                               

                              In the bullying and rape scenario, the victim is not actively enjoining the battle with an offensive (not offend, but offence) stance.

                              2014 Goals: 2500 miles / sub 2 800m / 4:30 mile / sub 16:30 5K

                               

                              Give a man a fire and he'll be warm the rest of the night;
                              Set a man afire and he'll be warm the rest of his life.

                              What in the Jehu?

                                I understand what Finn is saying. 

                                 

                                I liken it more to "holding" in football.  One side may get called for it first but everyone knows there is holding on every play on both sides of the ball.  It would be silly for one team to compalin about being held.