A practical application of socialist ideas (Read 1168 times)

    And the high end of $75k seems exceeding low.

     

    Yes... (see the 2nd link that I put in "MTA2".  In it, Krueger apparently has a dual definition of middle class, with the 2nd, on the upper end side of the scale, more in line with what some would consider "upper middle class".  And, I don't think that $75k to $250k would be upper middle class.  There's some number higher than $75k that I'd still consider middle class)

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      I think you guys have an upper middle class conception of middle class. Smile

       

      If you were in poverty, I think middle class would look like stability. The ability to have a regular life without being hungry or dependent on the gov.

        I think for the purposes of this analysis, the idea is that folks in the 25k-75k range constitute the middle class--folks who are in danger of falling back into poverty, but who do not live in poverty. Upwards of 75k, you are upper-middle class: though it may be tough or you may not be able to live in like the best school district, you are not worried about poverty.

         

        I guess by that definition it makes sense but I that is a different definition of "middle class" than most people use.

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          I think you guys have an upper middle class conception of middle class. Smile

           

          If you were in poverty, I think middle class would look like stability. The ability to have a regular life without being hungry or dependent on the gov.

           

          You're exactly right but I guess I always thought of there being a layer in between middle class and poverty? But anyway...semantics.

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            Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject.

              I maybe shouldn't be surprised, but I was somewhat surprised that the definition of middle class (upper middle class) dealt with "INCOME" rather than "NET WORTH".  Haven't found much relating to the worth of a household and its relationship to class.

               

              When I was reading the link, my original thought was that "NET WORTH" would be a better basis for defining societal classes.  Highly leverage people who earn more than $xxk seem like they may live like they're middle class, but in reality, they're not.

               

              However, in retrospect, I guess that INCOME is a better gauge for considering and classifying middle class.  Seems like "NET WORTH / WEALTH" may be a good gauge for classes above middle class.

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                25-75k for a family of 4 sounds middle class for Nebraska.

                 

                50-150k for a family of 4 sounds middle class for Boston.

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                  25-75k for a family of 4 sounds middle class for Nebraska.

                   

                  50-150k for a family of 4 sounds middle class for Boston.

                   

                  Middle class.  East coast class.

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                    East coast class.

                     

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                    It was $374,000.

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                      I thought America did not have a class system.

                        we are talking about improving it.  how can we have class warfare if we can't even clearly define the combatants?

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                          Currently if I give $1 to a charity I get @ 25-30% tax benefit, so I always give the governments gift to the charity ~ $1.25-$1.30

                           

                          That means if I were to give $10,000 total it becomes $12,500 -$13,000

                           

                          If they took the charitable deduction away, then I would just give $10,000 in this example.  The government would collect $2,500-$3,000 more in taxes that it could use to fund more programs to help people.  Or just waste it on Booze, Drugs and Wild Women. 

                           

                          So yes, It would reduce my charitable giving 

                           

                          Would this limit people's generosity to charities?

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                            I thought America did not have a class system.

                             

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                            I think you're confusing "Class" with "Caste".

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                              I think you're confusing "Class" with "Caste".

                               

                               

                              I think Ternt may have been referring to this bit of Rick Santorum's genious

                               

                              Just make it to the 30 second mark...really?

                               

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