There is no such thing as a point, in itself. The determination of a point always requires relating that point to its coordinates on a Cartesian line or a plane. And even then, as Einstein taught us, we are not referring to a reality, but to a tool invented by Descartes and others in a certain historical era for certain purposes--and not others.
Mitch & Pete's Mom
I'm just an English major, so I find myself wholly unequipped to appreciate the nuances here. What I do know, however, that my next marathon is on January 18, 2009. That's 95 days, 20 hours, and 30 minutes from now. It's not going to move, even if Einstein & Descartes rise from the dead and request a postponement. So if I want to run my best race, I'd better plan to peak in 95 days, 20 hours, and 30 minutes.
In regards to Speed vs. Endurance; I think it all depends on how you react to it. Some react very well with speed. In such case, there's no point of "sharpening" 6 months prior to THE race. Like I said, it would be very difficult to maintain that focus on speed. You might get sharpened up in 2 weeks and then what would you do the rest of 5.5 months?
Now Dr. Canova's approach is quite interesting and reminds me of how Steve Spence trained. Jeff Johnson also told me that, when he experimented backwards Lydiard, he said he had the least injury problem with the girls he was coaching.
Thank you all for this thread, I find it interesting. That said, I'm not as advanced as most of you and I wonder if incorporating periodization is something that can scale for everyone or am I better off just working on consistency?
The Logic of Long Distance
Milktruck say relentless
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" ..that corner has narrowed to a half-nekkid egyptian wandering about in the cold new jersey nighttime."~ R2E
Eye of Sauron
the Humpty Dumpty of running
And once again Mr. Wizard (aka: Stevie Ray) explains the internet.
Hah. Yes, indeed. I believe you are referring to what, in hippie speak, we call The Moment of Truth.
Thank you all for this thread, I find it interesting. That said, I'm not as advanced as most of you and I wonder if incorporating periodization is something that can scale for everyone or am I better off just working on consistency? Perhaps periodization could help with consistency, as it give you a mental and physical break? I'm currently doing a combo of the Cool Runnings beginner and intermediate 1/2 marathon trainig schedule and incorporating hills, intervals and tempo. My next race is November 16 but there is another race in January that is a possibility.
I think, basically, you have certain elements that need to be developed; whether you choose to call them; aerobic, anaerobic and speed (as Lydiard would) or others, it really doesn't matter. I'd even throw "muscle power" just to satisfy one individual (;o)), but the whole point is; you need to develop them ALL one way or the other. In fact, there's some more like coordination or kick or aclimatization and all as well. You need to figure out what need to be developed and what workouts would best develop them, when it should be fitted in to your program and how long would it take FOR YOU to develop it to the maximum.
I personally believe it would be so much more beneficial to do something shorter and faster; instead of doing 800m repeats, do 120m repeats with plenty of rest in between. To me, if you're doing 800m at, say, 10-minute pace (5 minutes) or so, you're what I call "no-man's land". You're not quite doing them FAST; you're not quite covering enough distance either. It's a tough workout and you'll get very tired, particularly if your aerobic base is still very low.
I'm not sure if he does anything shorter but I did think that was interesting that an 800m specialist would avoid a 200 meter workout.
That is extremely surprising. You can get a lot of work at 800m race pace by doing 200s. Running at race pace for the 800m is essential to (among other things) teach the body to hold form when it is going fast. 800m races are won by runners that, in the final stretch, slow down the least and hold form the best.
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