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What's your SPM (Steps per Minute)? (Read 1128 times)

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      My SPM is 180 regardless of my speed. My slow jogs have very short strides and I still maintain 180 SPM. When I run faster, I lean more from the ankles and lengthen my stride out back not forward.

       

      Tell  me you just read this in a book 

        The first thing it says on the DVD is that the length of the leg doesn't matter for the SPM. I believe the DVD is called Evolution of Running or something like that. I've only watched it once, and it was a month or so ago, so I'll try to watch it again this weekend and I'll also try to read the article in the newest runners magazine about SPM.

        2011 Goals 
        600 Logged Miles
        5K under 20:00

        Start running before work

        Running without iPod

        PR
        5K 21:06.5 (9/18/2010)
        6K 24:55 (4/18/2010)
        5Mi 35:33 (3/21/2010)

        Running Equipment: Garmin Forerunner 305, Brooks Launch (2nd Pair, 3rd Pair), Brooks Green Silence, Saucony Kinvara, Sennheiser PMX80 Headphones, iPod Nano

        Crosstraining Equipment: 2001 Trek 8000 Hardtail Mountain Bike, 2008 Trek 1.5 Road Bike

          LuckyRugger - people love to disparage and make fun of those that even talk about the 'magic stride rate' (probably because there is no magic stride rate that will keep you injury free and running well) but you WILL do better by keeping your stride rate near 180.  If you naturally run at 175 or 185 I'd say that's fine but if you're running 160 then you'll most likely benefit by getting that closer to 180.  Get it near 180 for a year or two (we're in this for the long haul aren't we?) and see how you feel and whether you are recovering better or performances are getting better.  A month and a 1/2 is probably not enough time to come to a conclusion one way or the other.


          Getting Faster!!!

             

             

            Tell  me you just read this in a book 

             

             

            You're correct, I read it in a book a while back. Regardless, it's how I run.

            2011 Races
            Houston Aramco Half Marathon 1/30/11 - 1:32:45 (PR)
            Buffalo Wallow Cross Country 6K 2/19/11 - 26:25
            Bayou City Classic 10K 3/12/111 - 51:06 (Ran in a centipede of 8) 
            Eikenburg Law Week 8K 3/26/11 - 32:54 (PR) 

            Bellaire Trolley 5k 4/9/11 - 19:33 (PR)
            LP Run (# of laps in 33 1/3 minutes) 4/27 - 19 3/4 Laps
            4x2 Bayou Bash Relay 4/30 - TBD


            lace 'em up!

               

               

              You're correct, I read it in a book a while back. Regardless, it's how I run.

               

              That's awesome!  I've been trying to do that, but it's hard to change old habits.

                Never counted my SPM- gonna have to do that.  I often run in 6/8 time, however.

                  If you understand the biometrics of running, 180 is typically the optimum SPM. Longer strides doesn't mean you'll be able to run faster, it will probably mean you'll be injured more. This was my understanding when i started to run, I thought I needed to acheive a longer stride to improve my time, but in fact I didn't, I just needed to improve how quickly my feet pulled my body across the ground.

                   

                  I was just curious how many others watch their SPM when they run, because I know it's an important technique. From what I've been doing over the past few months is working solely on my technique and it's paid-off more than just working on getting stronger, speedwork and hills.

                  2011 Goals 
                  600 Logged Miles
                  5K under 20:00

                  Start running before work

                  Running without iPod

                  PR
                  5K 21:06.5 (9/18/2010)
                  6K 24:55 (4/18/2010)
                  5Mi 35:33 (3/21/2010)

                  Running Equipment: Garmin Forerunner 305, Brooks Launch (2nd Pair, 3rd Pair), Brooks Green Silence, Saucony Kinvara, Sennheiser PMX80 Headphones, iPod Nano

                  Crosstraining Equipment: 2001 Trek 8000 Hardtail Mountain Bike, 2008 Trek 1.5 Road Bike


                  Getting Faster!!!

                     

                     

                    That's awesome!  I've been trying to do that, but it's hard to change old habits.

                     

                    This is easy for me. I was in the military and the double time cadenace is 180 step per minute. So I all I do is repeat in my head: left right left right left right left your left right left right left right left. This is ingrain in my head.

                    2011 Races
                    Houston Aramco Half Marathon 1/30/11 - 1:32:45 (PR)
                    Buffalo Wallow Cross Country 6K 2/19/11 - 26:25
                    Bayou City Classic 10K 3/12/111 - 51:06 (Ran in a centipede of 8) 
                    Eikenburg Law Week 8K 3/26/11 - 32:54 (PR) 

                    Bellaire Trolley 5k 4/9/11 - 19:33 (PR)
                    LP Run (# of laps in 33 1/3 minutes) 4/27 - 19 3/4 Laps
                    4x2 Bayou Bash Relay 4/30 - TBD

                      If you understand the biometrics of running, 180 is typically the optimum SPM. Longer strides doesn't mean you'll be able to run faster, it will probably mean you'll be injured more. This was my understanding when i started to run, I thought I needed to acheive a longer stride to improve my time, but in fact I didn't, I just needed to improve how quickly my feet pulled my body across the ground.

                       

                       

                      Actually this is rather misleading.  Longer strides DO contribute to faster running; otherwise, you get 180 stride freqnency and that'll be your upper limit speed.  It's actually the matter of upward projection angle--if you project yourself too high (angle being too bog), then you'll bounce up and down too much and waste energy as well as probably increase the chance of getting injured. 

                       

                      You may be too preoccupied with 180--you've got to realize that you CAN go above that and some runners do go as high as 200~210 per minute.  Anythig less than 160 would be too slow and you'll start to bounce up and down but there had been good runners--elite runners who might have even won the Olympic medal--whose stride frequency is considerably less than majority.

                       

                      At my age (50) and considerably slower than, well, in my youth; I haven't really changed my stride frequency much--still about 172~178.  That means my stride length is much shorter.  My goal this summer as a matter of fact is to increase my stride length by doing some hill training (uphill).  Speed is stride frequency X stride length.  You can't just think of one and not consider the other.  If may be fine for fitness jogging but if you go after improving your performance, you can't ignore lengthening your stride.

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                        Mine is usually around 178.

                         

                        My understanding is, if your running form is correct, the SPM shall fall into the range of 170~190 naturally. 

                           

                          Actually this is rather misleading.  Longer strides DO contribute to faster running; otherwise, you get 180 stride freqnency and that'll be your upper limit speed.  It's actually the matter of upward projection angle--if you project yourself too high (angle being too bog), then you'll bounce up and down too much and waste energy as well as probably increase the chance of getting injured. 

                           

                          You may be too preoccupied with 180--you've got to realize that you CAN go above that and some runners do go as high as 200~210 per minute.  Anythig less than 160 would be too slow and you'll start to bounce up and down but there had been good runners--elite runners who might have even won the Olympic medal--whose stride frequency is considerably less than majority.

                           

                          At my age (50) and considerably slower than, well, in my youth; I haven't really changed my stride frequency much--still about 172~178.  That means my stride length is much shorter.  My goal this summer as a matter of fact is to increase my stride length by doing some hill training (uphill).  Speed is stride frequency X stride length.  You can't just think of one and not consider the other.  If may be fine for fitness jogging but if you go after improving your performance, you can't ignore lengthening your stride.

                           

                          This is absolutely true and none of us should lose track of it.  As Nobby says running speed is stride rate X stride length.  It's not true that you MUST increase one or both to get faster.  Sometimes one or the other is way too high or way too low - for all of us there's an optimum combination for our CURRENT fitness level.  Finding that combination, and it changes at different race distances - think 100M vs 1/2 marathon, is important.   It seems, from observing good runners, that for 'distance' runners ~180 is a good starting point for stride rate. 

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                            Okay, this thread got me curious so I counted on an easy run today, number of times my right foot hit the ground in 30 seconds.  Did it a bunch of times.  It was very consistent, 45 every single time at my range of easy speeds.  When I did a few strides though, it increased to 46. 

                             

                            So I guess I'm at 180 steps per minute easy and 184 steps per minute going much faster.  For whatever that means.

                             

                             

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                            I teased before, but in good fun. I do kind of subscribe to the theory that running more will have you running optimally for you, more than getting overly concerned and caught up in details.  It's what I do anyways, and has worked well for me in terms of not getting injured and improving.

                              So I guess I'm at 180 steps per minute easy and 184 steps per minute going much faster.  For whatever that means.

                               

                              You are spot-on!  Are you running injury-free then?

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                                You are spot-on!  Are you running injury-free then?

                                 

                                I almost never get injured, yes.  

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