RunningAHEAD - Topic: I Got Dissed By a Bicyclist

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I Got Dissed By a Bicyclist (Read 2180 times)

John A view log	posted: 7/7/2008 at 11:35 PM
	Quote from Maplefly on 7/6/2008 at 3:27 PM: WTH? Her helmet must've been too tight. Some people have just been touched by the ugly stick I guess. If only you'd had time to wish her a good day with a big smile I doubt it was the helmet that was too tight.....I think her tight biking shirt probably was cutting off circulation to her brain - but because it was a bikers brain, she probably didnt notice the difference......
	2009 GOALs -30 MPW (MINIMUM weekly mileage) -5K time of 23:59 or faster -5 Mile time of 42:59 or faster -Half Marathon - 1Hr 59mins or faster -Run Bay State Marathon (completion - no time goal) Favorite Running Quote: Champions are made when no one is watching.

John A view log	posted: 7/7/2008 at 11:41 PM
	Quote from JakeKnight on 7/7/2008 at 5:54 PM: I hate cyclists. With a passion. Not a small passion, either. My passionate hatred for chubby, rude, spandex-clad bikers rivals the white-hot burning flame of a thousand fiery suns. Right there with you Man......
	2009 GOALs -30 MPW (MINIMUM weekly mileage) -5K time of 23:59 or faster -5 Mile time of 42:59 or faster -Half Marathon - 1Hr 59mins or faster -Run Bay State Marathon (completion - no time goal) Favorite Running Quote: Champions are made when no one is watching.

slaptear2 view log Inventory SUKS !!	posted: 7/8/2008 at 12:11 AM modified: 7/8/2008 at 12:12 AM
	Quote from Bonkin on 7/7/2008 at 7:03 PM: True, but try saying it backwards...."without rednecks there would be no NASCAR"....now you've got something you can work with. HEY- I'm a redneck and proud of it, except I don't watch Nascar, drink, smoke or sleep with my cousin, but other than that I'm a redneck. Not to be confused with a hillbilly !! If you don't know the differance between redneck and hillbilly, watch the old movie Deliverance- redneck are in the boat, hillbillys are on land. btw- neither can spell properly or know how to run a spell check I'd be offended by that redneck insult, but I'm too worn out from my long run
	2009 GOALS that I WILL ACHIEVE Goal:weight to healthy range 220>>171 now (160 goal in progress) Run 1st HM April 19, 2009 Union Hospital New Philadelphia, Ohio Run 2nd HM Akron Sept 2009 Run more 5K's and 10k races and beat my slow PR's 26.2 : in 2010- Akron Run at least 25 MPW (1300 miles minimum)

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posted: 7/8/2008 at 12:44 AM

Quote from cjregan on 7/7/2008 at 10:28 PM:

Perhaps I haven't taken any "heat" for my statement because this is generally a friendly and open-minded group of people on this site.

Ok, I should have made the disclaimer that this statement is based directly on my own experience. For me, mountain biking 2-3 days a week has made me a much stronger runner. I think it's great cross training. If you would like basis to compare, go find a trail that has 1000ft of climbing over 4-5 miles, first run that trail, then go mountain bike the exact same trail. I would wager that even a pro mountain biker would hurt more after the ride than the run.

I didn't mean to be aggresive... I was just pointing out that you said something was more intense than running on a running site, and nobody had yet made a sarcastic comment. I meant "heat" as friendly jibing, rather than any kind of insults or anything.

I still don't have any basis for comparison, because I don't know what it's like to do a trail like the one described, but wouldn't your test make skateboarding even tougher? I bet a pro skateboarder would probably die from your hypothetical trail.

I also think the amount of work done by the anaerobic system would be larger for the mountain biker in your hypothetical test than it would be for the runner. Again, just a guess.

runningwild view log	posted: 7/8/2008 at 1:43 AM
	I have been mountain biking since 1989 in the two places I have lived since then- Colorado and Asheville, NC. It would be hard to compare the two sports except to say this: I often run the same trails I have mountain biked and running is much more difficult. I certainly don't claim to be a "pro" biker but I'm not sure many bikers that I know would support the idea that climbing 1000ft on a bike is more difficult then doing it on your feet. Now if you are talking about the new breed of "single speed" bikers out there than you may have a valid argument. Those folks are NUTS!
	"Stadiums are for spectators. We runners have nature and that is much better." Juha "the Cruel" Väätäinen

T1dawk view log Running Addict	posted: 7/8/2008 at 3:01 AM
	my favorite breed of cyclist is the elsworth full suspension bike on the bike trail rider w/ platform pedals that hasn't seen a trail and never will... He thinks he's a good cyclist because of the amount of bank he's spent on a bike he's never gonna actually use. I love cycling though, I just really don't like a lot of people...so I must say that cycles are not evil... just the folks on them...
	Upcoming Races: StumpJump 50K trail race: October 2008 6:30:00 Mercedes Marathon: Feb 2009 Boston: April 20, 2009

beef

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posted: 7/8/2008 at 5:41 AM

Quote from runningwild on 7/8/2008 at 1:43 AM:

I have been mountain biking since 1989 in the two places I have lived since then- Colorado and Asheville, NC. It would be hard to compare the two sports except to say this: I often run the same trails I have mountain biked and running is much more difficult. I certainly don't claim to be a "pro" biker but I'm not sure many bikers that I know would support the idea that climbing 1000ft on a bike is more difficult then doing it on your feet. Now if you are talking about the new breed of "single speed" bikers out there than you may have a valid argument. Those folks are NUTS! Shocked

I'm not sure where you biked in Asheville, but I'd run up Kitsuma twice before I'd ride up it.

runningwild view log	posted: 7/8/2008 at 12:10 PM
	Quote from beef on 7/8/2008 at 5:41 AM: I'm not sure where you biked in Asheville, but I'd run up Kitsuma twice before I'd ride up it. I have pretty much biked all over WNC with Tsali and Dupont being my current favorites. I guess we just disagree. When you ride a bike up kitsuma (which I've done probably 50 times) you use your granny gears and slowly make it to the top. Then you get to ride down. When running up, you get to the top and still have to run down. I think mountain biking has a lot more built in recovery time then running does. Lots of time when you don't have to pedal if you don't want to. That is why it takes 20 miles on a MB to equal a good 5 mile trail run. The reality is this is really apples and oranges. If you are not in mountain biking shape and are in running shape, of course mountain biking is going to seem more difficult and vice versa.
	"Stadiums are for spectators. We runners have nature and that is much better." Juha "the Cruel" Väätäinen

Bonkin view log Reboot	posted: 7/8/2008 at 12:35 PM
	Quote from runningwild on 7/8/2008 at 12:10 PM: If you are not in _____________ shape and are in running shape, of course ___________ is going to seem more difficult and vice versa. Right on! For a wild runner, this one is wise.
	Your monkey gives me the creeps. - andahuff

tuf_aint_enough view log	posted: 7/8/2008 at 12:39 PM
	Quote from Econo on 7/7/2008 at 11:12 PM: mountain biking is HARD road biking is EZ There's a 150 or so guys in France right now that would probably disagree with this statement...

cjregan view log	posted: 7/8/2008 at 1:52 PM
	Oh my god, I didn't mean to start a huge debate! My only real beef was with the guy who said cyclists weren't athletes. Any activity you do is as intense, or hard, or whatever as you make it. I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could get a workout knitting scarfs!
	As soon as you're born you start dying, so you might as well have a good time!

Mishka

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posted: 7/8/2008 at 1:57 PM

Running vs. Road Cycling vs. Mountain Biking

I've done a ton of the first 2 and fair amount of the 3rd. As far as intensity, you can kick the shit out of yourself in all three. In the 2 wheeled disciplines, coasting as a recovery in between hard efforts allows for a much more complete recovery when compared to running for any recovery short of walking. The more complete recovery allows for repeated extremely high intensity efforts over workouts or races lasting hours.

Running and cycling are obviously different sports, but if you become proficient at each, you realize both leave you a sobbing, blubbering pile of waste on the side of the road if you have the appetite for that sort of thing.

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As to the original point of the thread...there's no reason for the cyclist in th OP to drop the F-bomb, if that's in fact, what happened. It's rude no matter how you slice it. However...700 people on a training run!!! Even heading out a couple hundred at a time...that sounds like a moving mass of chaos. If I were the cyclist, I'd be lying if I said that wouldn't frustrate me.

obsessor view log hop	posted: 7/8/2008 at 2:33 PM
	Quote from cjregan on 7/7/2008 at 8:30 PM: Mountain biking is a far more intense aerobic activity than running. Run faster.
	"Men, today we die a little." Emil Zatopek at the start of the Olympic Marathon

Econo view log Do Not Feed	posted: 7/8/2008 at 3:18 PM
	hey tuf, 2 hours after posting that last night, I ate humble pie on a group (road) bike ride. One of the cycling club members had to babysit me in the last 7 miles (slowing down, letting me draft behind her). Oh, the shame! (lack of electrolytes did me in. yeah, that's the ticket, electrolytes)
	Plotting revenge marathon. Maybe Napa.

JakeKnight view log	posted: 7/8/2008 at 7:04 PM
	Quote from cjregan on 7/8/2008 at 1:52 PM: I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could get a workout knitting scarfs! It causes massive carpal tunnel syndrome. It's way harder than biking. Plus, knitters get all the chicks.
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