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I'm sure I'm not alone. I need some injured reserve pals. Hello? Hello?
My husband has recently taken on running. Is cheerleading no impact?
Beware, batbear...
Instead, I got depressed, sulked and gained 20 lbs. Now I'm running again and it's REALLY like starting all over. Learn from my mistakes!!!
Be well, convalesce, and set some new goals - maybe nutritional, maybe built around some new exercise regimen that increases a sense of focus and well-being.
2012 Goals:
1. 1500+ miles.
2. Streak starting in March or April if I'm healed.
3. 100 Push up challenge to get some upper body strength back.
4. Get weight under 180 by the end of the summer.
5. 1 or fewer alcoholic drinks 4+ nights per week every week.
6. Concentrate on 5K distance and September HM.
7. Have fun!
Sorry to hear the news.
Went through a few months on the IR back in Fall/winter 08 and the pool does suck. Get yourself a floatation belt and hit the Deep Water Running! Also use opportunity to add upper body strength to get rid of those twigs, the added strength will help you out in long run when you are able to get back at it as well as keep your mind on something positive.
Good Luck and get better soon.
wannabe, I went down with something similar in late Sept./early Oct. I wish I'd read some of the information I recently read that says that the best way to get over injury is to treat it like a "type A" personality would. Diagnose the problems, root causes, create a plan for your recovery and treat the six weeks like it's a training regimen. Instead, I got depressed, sulked and gained 20 lbs. Now I'm running again and it's REALLY like starting all over. Learn from my mistakes!!! Be well, convalesce, and set some new goals - maybe nutritional, maybe built around some new exercise regimen that increases a sense of focus and well-being.
At first I felt like an alcoholic being told not to drink or an overeater put on a strick diet. I thought about not telling anyone and running in the country where no one would know me.
But I want to recover ASAP, so, I am doing exactly what I am told. I think I've drank a gallon of milk in less than 24 hours as well as taking my Caltrate D. (I wonder if I can OD on calcium.) If we didn't have 19 inches of snow this morning I would go buy skim because I am worried about extra calories. I am online shopping for something to waterproof my iPod and an aquajogger belt. I am going to log my time running in the pool. Maybe I will emerge a triathlete from this experience!
I hope your fresh start goes well. The weight will come off. Running is such an awesome calorie burner. Just don't ramp up miles and run too fast, right off the bat. That is how I ended up like this. Slow is better. I realized this a little to late. We live and we learn don't we? Phooey!
Sorry to hear the news. Went through a few months on the IR back in Fall/winter 08 and the pool does suck. Get yourself a floatation belt and hit the Deep Water Running! Also use opportunity to add upper body strength to get rid of those twigs, the added strength will help you out in long run when you are able to get back at it as well as keep your mind on something positive. Good Luck and get better soon.
That is the plan. We don't live too far from you. Maybe we will meet at a race sometime. Thanks for the support.
Wannaberunner:
Sorry to hear about your "official" set-back.
I don't mean to "poo-poo" your injury situation but just about ALL the champions in the past had had their share of set-backs. The one I always think about is Toshihiko Seko. He won Boston marathon twice in the 1980s, had the epic battle with Bill Rodgers in the drizzling rain in 1979 (Rodgers set the then US record of 2:09:27 and Seko was second in 2:10:20). He was known to go as long as 50 miles in one workout; he was a training worm. He had won prestegious Fukuoka marathon 3-in-a-row and set the national record 10000m and everything was going great. Then he twisted his ankle. Didn't think anything of it at the time but it brought a chain reaction; had injury after injury...then he hurt his liver (probably from too much drinking beer). Basically, he couldn't run for 2 and a half years. While he couldn't run at all, he walked. He walked up to 30km at one time--that must have taken 4 or 5 hours? If you went to the Imperial Palace in Tokyo at that period, you could have spotted him walking with rocks in hands... He walked this 1.8km loop endlessly. On his come-back race, Tokyo marathon in 1983, he set the PR and the national record of 2:08:37.
At the time, American, Alberto Salazar was his main rival. He ran his debut marathon at NYC in 1981 and set the fastest debut marathon with 2:09:41 as a senior at U of Oregon (or maybe he was right out of college at the time...). Prior to that, he had a knee tendonitis so bad that he seriously thought about packing it up. In fact, he did pack and left for home (MA). Before he got out of Eugene, he had a car accident that forced him to turn around. He cross trained then and, well, the rest was history. Another famous American would be Joan Benoit. Before 1984 Olympic Trial, she hurt her knee and couldn't train. It was told that she stationary biked for 2-hours and used some weight machine. She said that, after this set-back, she actually came back stronger because of all these "extra" exercises.
6-weeks is nothing. Do what you have to do--so you hate swimming... Well it depends on whether that would weight out over your love for running (when you come back) or not. Do what you can and stay in shape. 6-weeks is nothing.
One word of caution, though. I've seen quite a efw evry talented middle-aged housewives starting to run, show some promises, got absolutely hooked and couldn't control. They raced and raced and raced and ran themselves into the ground. Seirously, not being a sexist but I see more women in this situation than men (for whatever the reason). You seem to show some talent, winning some races. It is quite obvious that you LOVE to run. Control yourself. It may take more discipline to go easy than train hard. I've been working on this Recovery Indicator with an exercise physiologist, Dick Brown, and the Olympic bronze medalist, Lorraine Moller. We have 4 things anybody can check first thing in the morning and we quantified them. You plug them in and, when the score get so much, you are suppoed to take it easy from a prescribed workout. One of the items is leg soreness. Lorraine said; "If your legs are sore, you shouldn't be running anyways..." Have you run through some leg soreness before? Well, hope you learnt a lesson for more years to come. It takes discipline to take it easy. Hopefully, this RI would tell people objectively that it's time to take it easy...
Once again, do what you can now. 6 weeks is nothing; it goes quicker than you'll know.
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I'm trying my best to train smart. But, it's hard. I want to train harder every time I go for an easy run. I'm new to racing and feel that the easy runs will hurt my performance. I'm sure this isn't true as long as I have some speed workouts. but it's easier said than done. I don't want any setbacks and I'll try to fight the urge.
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Nobby, thanks for your post. My 17-year-old son is a pretty good high school runner (ran a 4:29 mile last night and he wasn't happy with it). His coach says he has achilles tendonitis and shin splints. Of course, at his age, he thinks it's the end of the world, so I will show him what you wrote. On Monday, I'll call to get him a PT appointment. I told him he needs to listen to the advice he gets, so I hope he does.
Teresa:
Good to see you on here. Hey, 4:29 as a high schooler is damn good (I was 4:26! ;o)). At 17, here's another story; Murray Halberg of New Zealand had a major accident while playing rugby (a little rougher than American football simply because they don't wear protectors like some sissies... ;o)). He dislocated his right shoulder and major blood vessels and nerves around his shoulder ruptured and blood leaked around his heart. Doctors had to open up his chest to remove clotting blood to save his life. Doctors asked his parents wheather or not to amputate his arm because it's not going to regain its use. His parents said no because, well first of all, doctors didn't think he would survive till the following week. He did. He was right-handed so he had to learn everything from writing his name to using knife and fork. So he was 17 then. He joined a group of runners in the neighborhood led by a guy by the name of Arthur Lydiard. 10 years later, he won the gold medal in the Olympic Games with his right arm just hanging from his shoulder, dangling.
Get well soon! I'm trying my best to train smart. But, it's hard. I want to train harder every time I go for an easy run. I'm new to racing and feel that the easy runs will hurt my performance. I'm sure this isn't true as long as I have some speed workouts. but it's easier said than done. I don't want any setbacks and I'll try to fight the urge.
Don't mean to hijack the thread but I saw your YouTube from other thread. Very good form! Interestingly, I'm reading this Japanese book about running biomechanics; he has coached Japanese record holder in women's 400m. He studied under Tom Tellez, Carl Lewis' coach. I don't know enough about Chi running but I feel I've read enough about it. His idea is quite similar, just lift your knee and drop your foot straight down.
And, yeah, I wouldn't call you "heel striker" even though you almost APPEAR to land on your heel first. Good job.
By the way, I don't know if it's just a camera angle but when you practice a form like this, I wouldn't do that on a slope; either downhill OR uphill. You should find a flat area. Just my 2 cents.
Don't mean to hijack the thread but I saw your YouTube from other thread. Very good form! Interestingly, I'm reading this Japanese book about running biomechanics; he has coached Japanese record holder in women's 400m. He studied under Tom Tellez, Carl Lewis' coach. I don't know enough about Chi running but I feel I've read enough about it. His idea is quite similar, just lift your knee and drop your foot straight down. And, yeah, I wouldn't call you "heel striker" even though you almost APPEAR to land on your heel first. Good job. By the way, I don't know if it's just a camera angle but when you practice a form like this, I wouldn't do that on a slope; either downhill OR uphill. You should find a flat area. Just my 2 cents.
Nobby,
What's the name of the Japanese book? Is it in English? I'm always looking to improve. Right now, I'm working on getting my feet off the ground quicker. I want to spend more time in the air. The camera angle is off a little. I live in Houston and it's very flat here. I think this form works well uphill (highway overpasses for me). I lean more and take shorter strides and pump my arms a little higher. This might be standard for all strides?.?.? I struggle going downhill though. So I take my time descending. Thanks for the feedback.
Nobby, What's the name of the Japanese book? Is it in English? I'm always looking to improve. Right now, I'm working on getting my feet off the ground quicker. I want to spend more time in the air. The camera angle is off a little. I live in Houston and it's very flat here. I think this form works well uphill (highway overpasses for me). I lean more and take shorter strides and pump my arms a little higher. This might be standard for all strides?.?.? I struggle going downhill though. So I take my time descending. Thanks for the feedback.
The guy has been coaching a handful of best 400m runners in Japan right now, as well as the Japan's national record holder in women's long jump. He's got 2 books out and I've got both of them; the one I'm reading is called "Pom, Pyun, Run" (;o)) Unfortunately (for you guys) it's not translated in English.
Interesting, though, that you mention about "getting (your) feet off the ground quicker"; this is what "Pyun" means. By the way, the concept of "getting your feet off the ground quicker" is correct--remember "Chariots of Fire"? In that movie, Harold Abraham is doing some sprint drills and his coach is telling him; "Imagine you're running on hot bricks...if you stay there too long, you'll get burnt. Put, put, put...quick, quick, quick... Light as a feather!" If he really said that, he was way ahead of his time. Now, however, you can't think about getting your foot off the ground more quickly. It is because then you're just hopping and lose the support. Instead, and this is the secret, SWING YOUR OTHER LEG QUICKLY PAST THE SUPPORT LEG. This would quicken your stride and let you get off the ground more quickly.
Here's one of the best exercises to work on that; you put one of those low hurdles or just simple cones (small ones), about 5 inches high (doesn't have to be high, in fact, you DON'T want them to be too high) and place them, oh, about 4 or 5 feet apart. You can start with, say, 5 or 6 of them to begin with. Now, you can skip, right? You hop and land on the same foot... You try to do that OVER these cones. In skipping, there's a movement called "scissors" where both legs (knees) very quickly cross. By placing cones and having to go OVER them, it exaggerates that movement. Just try this exercise and you can tell how quickly you'd have to cross your legs! At first, it may be a bit awckward but, as you get quicker, you'll get the hang of it. One of the best exercises to bring your knees forward quicker. If you have a hard time mastering this exercise, first, place some sticks on the ground first (very low) to get a hang of it.
Now, "Pom" is pushing the ground. I'll tell you one of the best exercises to get the hang of this. Have a partner stand in front of you, maybe 2 feet away, slightly to the side. Have him/her hold out a palm up at around your shoulder height. Just like boxing, try to punch his/her hand straight. As you punch, you will feel your foot on the same side pushing down the ground hard. This is this "Pom" feel. Once you get the hang of it, try to do this as you do a running action on the spot. You will feel the foot pushing down harder than the other side. Of course, you can't afford to do this if you're landing on your feel first.
Now gotta go back to watching Beppu Oita Marathon on the webcam! ;o)
"If your legs are sore, you shouldn't be running anyways..." Have you run through some leg soreness before? Well, hope you learnt a lesson for more years to come. It takes discipline to take it easy. Hopefully, this RI would tell people objectively that it's time to take it easy...
Really? That's interesting. I've definitely run through soreness, but not necessarily fast.
Are you making a distinction between running and jogging, here, or is it the same thing (i.e if you're sore, rest)?
I'd be interested to see the full index.
Really? That's interesting. I've definitely run through soreness, but not necessarily fast. Are you making a distinction between running and jogging, here, or is it the same thing (i.e if you're sore, rest)? I'd be interested to see the full index.
I wouldn't call the Olympic bronze medal "jogging".
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