Timing Chips (Read 956 times)

    Anybody know where one can get chips to time races? At the minimum, I am looking for a chip that will tell me a time and a bib number in a text file or something. I've been looking around the internet and they don't seem to be easy to find. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks


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      Jbye, I know that most of the races I run (in southern Ontario) are run by Chiptime

      http://www.chiptimeresults.com/

      They are a .com website so I'm assuming they originate in the US anyway.

      Hope that helps Smile

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        Anybody know where one can get chips to time races? At the minimum, I am looking for a chip that will tell me a time and a bib number in a text file or something. I've been looking around the internet and they don't seem to be easy to find. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks

         

        what?

          I wrote some software to time a race, print off results, and a handful of other stuff. I'm my program, they user has to press the enter button whenever a user crosses a line, which isn't always to reliable. To deal with this, I want a chip that will tell me what the persons time is, like itiming or any other company that comes in and times a race for you. Where do these company's get there chips, and/or is it possible for me to get a couple and a mat or whatever to play with?... hope thats a lil clearer
          JimR


            I wrote some software to time a race, print off results, and a handful of other stuff. I'm my program, they user has to press the enter button whenever a user crosses a line, which isn't always to reliable. To deal with this, I want a chip that will tell me what the persons time is, like itiming or any other company that comes in and times a race for you. Where do these company's get there chips, and/or is it possible for me to get a couple and a mat or whatever to play with?... hope thats a lil clearer

             

             

            The chip is a small part of a very elaborate setup.  The bulk of the complexity is in the timing equipment set up at the start and finish lines.  This equpment is very expensive, complex and not something you can just borrow or toss together.  In a  nutshell, unless you've got  a couple of hundred grand hanging around, you can't get this stuff.

              ok, so your telling me it's not possible to get a handful of chips and whatever the mechanism is that controls them and tells me the total time in any sort of way? Why is it so complex to turn one of these things on and off?


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                The chip is a small part of a very elaborate setup.  The bulk of the complexity is in the timing equipment set up at the start and finish lines.  This equpment is very expensive, complex and not something you can just borrow or toss together.  In a  nutshell, unless you've got  a couple of hundred grand hanging around, you can't get this stuff.

                 Why would it cost that much?  I can understand for professional races you need a certain high standard but for the OP's purposes it looks like a lot less would do.  RFID chips and readers are fairly cheap these days.

                 

                Tag cost appears to be under a buck: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/20/85

                Readers from $150 to $750: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/20/86

                Do-it-yourselfers might be able to build one really cheap.  Especially if you only need one mat at the finish and not worry about recording and synchronizing multiple timing mats.

                 

                (Edit: that's not counting computer hardware and software interfaces of course...)

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                   Why would it cost that much?  I can understand for professional races you need a certain high standard but for the OP's purposes it looks like a lot less would do.  RFID chips and readers are fairly cheap these days.

                   

                  Tag cost appears to be under a buck: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/20/85

                  Readers from $150 to $750: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/20/86

                  Do-it-yourselfers might be able to build one really cheap.  Especially if you only need one mat at the finish and not worry about recording and synchronizing multiple timing mats.

                   

                  (Edit: that's not counting computer hardware and software interfaces of course...)

                  I think the systems are so expense because the companies have to make up development costs and they don't have a huge market.  The software takes a lot of time and, sadly, as far as I know the interface to each system is different so every provider seems to write their own software.

                   

                  Thanks for the links. 

                  JimR


                     Why would it cost that much?  I can understand for professional races you need a certain high standard but for the OP's purposes it looks like a lot less would do.  RFID chips and readers are fairly cheap these days.

                     

                    Tag cost appears to be under a buck: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/20/85

                    Readers from $150 to $750: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/20/86

                    Do-it-yourselfers might be able to build one really cheap.  Especially if you only need one mat at the finish and not worry about recording and synchronizing multiple timing mats.

                     

                    (Edit: that's not counting computer hardware and software interfaces of course...)

                     

                     

                     

                    I know...a touch exaggerated on my part.  But proper race-tough timing systems will run into thousands just for simple setups.  The bulk of this stuff isn't designed for outdoors, and it needs to do more than just read the chip, it's got to identify from the scramble of readings which reading constitutes 'on the mat' (or whatever other timing array is set up), so there's distince differences between basic rfid and the needs of race timing.

                     

                    The latest issue of Canadian Running had a pretty good article on race/chip timing.  The competition gets tough because there's only so many races in a given area that are big enough to justifiy setting up a system.  Mind you some of the really big companies aren't interested in the smaller venues, so if one could come up with a good cheap and reliable way of doing it, there is a market.  However, there's lots of timing companies that use manual methods that are really good at timing small races and they can do it pretty cheap.

                      I want a chip that will tell me what the persons time is, like itiming or any other company that comes in and times a race for you.

                       

                      The chips do not NOT record a runners time. The chips are not devices that are turned on or off.  All the chips do, when triggered by a RFID scanner (usually a mat on the course), is send a serial number to the scanner.  Its essentially the same thing as if the runner had a bar code on the bottom of their shoe, and ran across a bar code reader.

                       

                      The timing is all done by the software.

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                        So what would the output of the mat or any other reader of the chips be, just a list of barcodes to a textfile or something?  Would there be a timestamp or anthing? If so, I could work with that. If i was given a list of bib numbers in the order they came in, that would be nice.
                          So what would the output of the mat or any other reader of the chips be, just a list of barcodes to a textfile or something?  Would there be a timestamp or anthing? If so, I could work with that. If i was given a list of bib numbers in the order they came in, that would be nice.

                           

                          For the most part, and in general, no information is provided by the chip reader (timing mat) other than the unique serial number of each chip it senses.  The mat has no intelligence, it just streams out chip serial numbers.  These need to be processed by the timing and scoring software.

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                            Here are some systems:

                             

                            http://www.firsttothefinish.com/items.asp?Cc=fw_tm_TimSys

                             

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