Is running killing us? (Read 575 times)

    This article may already be doing the rounds but if it isn't then get ready to pull apart the at best aggregated study

    being communicated out in the public arena.

     

    http://i.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/9888203/Is-running-too-much-killing-you

      That caption under Fat Ryan Hall is hilarious: Love long distances? Scale it back.

      "If you have the fire, run..." -John Climacus

        I don't think most people running high mileage are under the illusion that it will provide health benefits.

        Dave

        bap


          So what he is suggesting is that we will live longer if we do things in moderation.

           

          I've never heard that before.

          Certified Running Coach
          Crocked since 2013

            Our sport has an intimate relationship with death. The first marathoner was dead on arrival. When a race goes badly, we say bluntly that we died, and everyone knows exactly what we mean. As early as junior high, I used to describe the best race to myself as one in which I died just as I crossed the line. I would "kill myself" in speed workouts, sometimes take off in races on purpose at a "suicidal" pace. The language of running is the language of death. To run my best, it intuitively seemed to me that the first fear that I needed to overcome was the fear of death.

             

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            "If you have the fire, run..." -John Climacus

            stadjak


            Interval Junkie --Nobby

              I'm going to go sit on the couch, where it's nice and healthy.

              2021 Goals: 50mpw 'cause there's nothing else to do

                I'm going to go sit on the couch, where it's nice and healthy.

                 

                GOOD LUCK BRO

                 

                "If you have the fire, run..." -John Climacus


                #artbydmcbride

                  I just avoid races that have 'Death' or 'Hell' in the titles, or locations; Death Valley for example. 

                   

                  ....so far so good.

                   

                  Runners run


                  uncontrollable

                    being human is killing us - running is enhancing an otherwise blah experience

                    peace

                    LedLincoln


                    not bad for mile 25

                        Dave

                          So what he is suggesting is that we will live longer if we do things in moderation.

                           

                          I've never heard that before.

                           

                          omg brand new information

                          joescott


                            In the journal where this article appeared (Missouri Medicine) there is also a fairly lengthy "testimonial" article by a Kansas City area opthalmologist, John C Hagan, III, who over the years has done many triathlons and half marathons and at least one marathon.  In his own admittedly N=1 study he concludes that his years of running likely caused his atrial fibrillation and  highly elevated (CACS) score for calcified coronary plaque.  I was thinking of writing my own N = 1 study response to his piece.  I don't have the data to write a response to the main research article, but I figure any testimonial is as good as Hagan's.

                             

                            One thing you will note about many of these articles that pop up claiming heart damage results from lots of running is that this dude James O'Keefe is at the root of most of them, and frankly I've become personally convinced that the guy has some philosophical axe to grind and is trying to make a name for himself so he can grow up to be like Doctor Oz or something.  This journal article gravely states that, "Indeed, an emerging body of scientific data suggests that chronic, excessive, high-intensity exercise may induce oxidative stress and myocardial fibrosis, accelerate atherolsclerosis, increase vascular wall thickness, and increase cardiac chamber stiffness."  This statement regarding the ominous "emerging body of scientific data" carries footnotes numbers 12 and 13 as support, which in turn refer to papers by..... you guessed it, James O'Keefe.  So this guy is out there basically single handedly creating most of this stuff.  In case many of you were not aware of O'Keefe and the guys in his circle of disciples I would refer you to this as a balancing point of view from Alex Hutchinshon:  http://www.runnersworld.com/health/too-much-running-myth-rises-again.  You will note that I'm not the only one suspicious that this is not unbiased science.  I have a lot of other thoughts about the actual research itself, but gotta get back to work  now.  :-)

                            - Joe

                            We are fragile creatures on collision with our judgment day.

                              From Joe's linked article -  "If we ignore the known health benefits of greater amounts of aerobic exercise, then greater amounts of aerobic exercise don't have any health benefits."

                               

                              Even accepting that health benefits level off after about an hour a day, it does not account for looking better, feeling better and more importantly achieving faster race times and the attendant adoration of fans worldwide (ok time to stop reaching).

                              mab411


                              Proboscis Colossus

                                "While logging huge numbers of kilometres and running marathons can keep you thinner, lower your risk for type 2 diabetes and offer other benefits, it appears the subsequent wear and tear on the heart is a potential drawback, O'Keefe said."

                                 

                                I don't run any kilometres in an average week, only miles.

                                 

                                *whew* Safe.

                                "God guides us on our journey, but careful with those feet." - David Lee Roth, of all people